Thread: Speed Camera Trailers

Originally Posted by V8Ian

I fail to see how littering the roadside with speed cameras, fining competent drivers for straying 3% over a conservative limit, contributes to safety or the lowering of the road toll. All it actually does is distract attention from the road to the dash.
Speed cameras are a revenue source, not a safety tool.
How many drug or alcohol impaired drivers sail undetected through these cash generating devices?

And how many do this then never pay the fine??

My belief is that the number of points on the licence should be related to the number of Ks driven per year.

But this would be to difficult to regulate.

Some days i would go through over 10speed cameras.
Guys like Ian would go through many more than i do.

The weekend driver,who has know idea how to drive,and is a massive risk to other road users, may only go through one speed camera a month.

In fact,driving around during the week,it is often easy to predict what another driver will do,on the weekends,it is the complete opposite,you never know what they are going to do.

Yes Paul, I'd go through dozens a week, that's only the ones I notice.
Last year I was RBTed once! I've never been drug tested on the road, only at work sites.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Automated revenue raising. If there was any connection with safety the operator has a duty of care to immediately stop the dangerous activity. Imagine the response from the lawmakers if BHP failed to 'STOP THE JOB', but sent a photo and fine, days or weeks later, for a safety breach.

I agree to a point. What is the alternative. If you are going to take an anti stance, you must deliver an alternative. Otherwise you are just ****ing in the wind. Comparing BHP to the laws on our roads may have sounded good at first thought, but does not pass close scrutiny. Dropping speed tolerance to a couple of km's just gets everyone off side. Knee jerk reaction. " revenue raising", is the general public thought. How about a sliding scale, up to say 10 km's over, where you receive a letter, don't do it again,3 times big fine. For those who push to the limit, pick a speed , lose your licence, lose your car.
I've thought for a while, on two or three lane highways, often the rule is, keep left unless overtaking. If the left lane is doing the speed limit, how on earth can you overtake without breaking the law? Let the overtaking lanes drive 10 to 20 km's above the limit, only when overtaking. Most of us when discussing this subject, don't stop to think about the police who have to attend the accidents, where they confront dead and mutilated bodies, often children.

All valid suggestions Bob except that 113 k on the four lane, divided, 110kph limited Pacific Motorway is hardly likely to be the cause of an prang.
The goose chopping and changing lanes (often 2 and 3 at a time), at 80-90 k, amongst the congested 50-60 k flow, is the accident looking for a place to happen.
As is the drunk/drugged driver, distracted, inattentive, hoon.....in the scheme of things, exceeding the arbitrary limit by less than 3% is not contributing to the road toll but it is an excuse to get motorists to contribute to the State coffers.

Originally Posted by trog

If the police were in business to raise revenue , you would think they would be out there fining those parking on and across footpaths. Councils could get in on the gravy train with fines for those on the nature strip. Easy money.

happens around here all the time

parked wrong side of the road, etc etc

police cruise thru at night and book them....

gotten my neighbours a few times now

some people don't learn...

Originally Posted by trog

If the police were in business to raise revenue , you would think they would be out there fining those parking on and across footpaths. Councils could get in on the gravy train with fines for those on the nature strip. Easy money.

That's not a Police issue at least here in Vic - it's the Councils responsibilty. They do a run through the estate once or twice a year - you know when it's happened as all the cars are off the nature strips for a few weeks clogging up roads the council approved to be constructed that are so narrow you can't park on the road legally and get another car past.

The funny thing is though that because Council officers don't work past 5pm - ever - then it's easy not to get fined. I park on my nature strip at times but it happens after 5 and I'm gone at 7 - I'm never going to get caught be a Council worker doing that.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

I fail to see how littering the roadside with speed cameras, fining competent drivers for straying 3% over a conservative limit, contributes to safety or the lowering of the road toll. All it actually does is distract attention from the road to the dash.
Speed cameras are a revenue source, not a safety tool.
How many drug or alcohol impaired drivers sail undetected through these cash generating devices?

The AU design rules relating to vehicle speedometers , and the Tolerance to be applied for any activation built into the state speed cameras should be enough to protect a competent driver who sometimes strays 3% over a conservative limit i would have thought . There is also the vehicle over-speed alarm and or GPS to assist drivers in this regard .

But of course a copper out and about on our roads is more effective than anything else for road rule enforcement , but alas that is another story .

Originally Posted by Homestar

That's not a Police issue at least here in Vic - it's the Councils responsibilty. They do a run through the estate once or twice a year - you know when it's happened as all the cars are off the nature strips for a few weeks clogging up roads the council approved to be constructed that are so narrow you can't park on the road legally and get another car past.

The funny thing is though that because Council officers don't work past 5pm - ever - then it's easy not to get fined. I park on my nature strip at times but it happens after 5 and I'm gone at 7 - I'm never going to get caught be a Council worker doing that.

This is from the City of Moonee Valley web site.
It looks like they get the police to help enforce the rule.


Vehicles parked on the nature strip or footpath:

• cause major damage to public infrastructure, both above and below the ground
• may prevent emergency personnel from accessing key infrastructure such as water, sewage, gas, telecommunications and drainage pipes
• can pose increased safety risks for pedestrians as they are less visible to oncoming cars
• restrict access for wheelchair and pram users

You can be issued with a parking fine from Police or our Parking Control Officers if you park on nature strips or footpaths.


Cheers, Mick.