Don't like Supercars,..try the Liqui Moly 12 hr?

I don't think SVG is that 'old'

Anyway,what he did say was the car was a slug down conrod,so he had to try his utmost across the top,which I suppose means taking more risks.

And eventually,got caught out.....

The Ford GT deserves to be in this race hopefully it is next year. A nice GT40 is still on my dream car list...

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The Ford GT deserves to be in this race hopefully it is next year. A nice GT40 is still on my dream car list...

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"GT40"?,..you have good taste,...VERY good taste.
Originals are worth HUGE money, I try to buy the British Magazine "Octane" every month, and there is sometimes an original one for sale there,..with racing history etc,...dreamland for me!
Pickles.

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"GT40"?,..you have good taste,...VERY good taste.
Originals are worth HUGE money, I try to buy the British Magazine "Octane" every month, and there is sometimes an original one for sale there,..with racing history etc,...dreamland for me!
Pickles.

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The new Ford GT isn't too bad either. It won it's class at Le Mans this year.

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I am still not sure what this Mr Mustang thing is but anyway.

I have noticed a common aspect in many of your threads on this forum - that is, when ever someone posts up something you don't agree with, you immediately attack the individual rather than simply offering alternative discussion.

You might want to get help with that.

My point of my post is that even though we have some hi powered and great cars produced by HSV and FPV and others, I was surprised that in an Aussie race there were no Aussie cars in the Class that they would have been eligible to compete in and maybe the relevant teams thought they may not have been competitive - my view and for sure others may disagree. I am sure on a track like Bathurst, a top spec HSV would have given the Focus and the Mazda 3 a run for their money but maybe not some of the other vehicles.

Yes it was a great race and it is a shame that there were no Aussie cars in an aussie race.

Oh and Pedro, I did spot the Viper later, thanks.

garry

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Not "attacking" anyone, you are the one that initially described the WI "cashed up bogans", referred to me as "some random", V8 Supercars "racing taxis" etc etc in "derogatory" terms, etc, which is your right.....I am not "attacking" you but I'm certainly strongly disagreeing with you. Perhaps, if you didn't initially use derogatory language, then perhaps a better tone would be set. I don't know as "some random" what your motor car/sport interests are, if indeed you have any, but I wouldn't be attaching derogatory/belittling terms to them, as you have to mine,..simply different tastes,..IMHO of course.
But if you wish to be continually "negative", & not have a single good thing to say about what is a very good car, for its particular market of course, that being the Mustang, when the WORLD press acclaim the car.
When you place up CONTINUAL negative press about V8 Supercars.
When you have nothing but derogatory stuff to say about the W1, produced against the odds, by an Aussie company "having a go", in difficult circumstances, and which will probably go down in Aussie motoring circles as the best car ever made in this Country,..compare the W1 with Ford's last "effort". There was a heap of work in this car, over several years, so yeah, a little bit of appreciation for a good effort would be good, would it not?
So yes, when you have NOTHING positive to say, about stuff where there are many positives, I will defend & promote those positives, and there are many, about the W1, and Supercars, although obviously, you don't recognize them.
But, Mr Mustang, I do recognize that you have as much right as I do, or anyone else to agree or disagree, so all is good with me.
Pickles.
NB: Your comment re "Focus RS"?..Couldn't see one in the entry list. The only Focus I could see were several specially built by "Marc Cars",...which run a 500HP Ford V8.

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But anyway, I might as well ask, what would your formula be for a successful motor racing category in Aussie, that is, if you are prepared to disclose one of your "secrets" to a "random"?
Pickles.

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I'll answer the question from the point of view of someone whose favourite period of Australian motorsport was the 1985 JH 1000 when the Jaguars won followed by the 1982 race when the nicest sounding vehicle, the Camaro was hopelessly outclassed and ended up on its roof. In 1985 there were 16 different vehicles competing in the race, all of which bore a reasonable resemblance to cars that you could theoretically buy (even a Rover).

Although the supercar formula provides a safer, faster and more consistent platform for the drivers there is a very large amount of interest lost in the fact that they are just skinned space frames. Also the intrigue behind the teams pushing the envelope of the production engineering from a development and homologation point of view added more interest to the rivalry between teams.

If only there was a way to get the production car formula back as the commercial flavour of motor racing..... FWIW It would have been interesting not only to see a Holden represented in the 12 hour but also a well thought out turbo six Falcon.

Regards,

Tote

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I'll answer the question from the point of view of someone whose favourite period of Australian motorsport was the 1985 JH 1000 when the Jaguars won followed by the 1982 race when the nicest sounding vehicle, the Camaro was hopelessly outclassed and ended up on its roof. In 1985 there were 16 different vehicles competing in the race, all of which bore a reasonable resemblance to cars that you could theoretically buy (even a Rover).

Although the supercar formula provides a safer, faster and more consistent platform for the drivers there is a very large amount of interest lost in the fact that they are just skinned space frames. Also the intrigue behind the teams pushing the envelope of the production engineering from a development and homologation point of view added more interest to the rivalry between teams.

If only there was a way to get the production car formula back as the commercial flavour of motor racing..... FWIW It would have been interesting not only to see a Holden represented in the 12 hour but also a well thought out turbo six Falcon.

Regards,

Tote

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I agree with you, but particularly your last comment, which I believe is the "secret",...."If only there was a way"?
Pickles.

Well, for me it was a bit different, I only had it on as background for a while, and, although not really my cup of tea, I did like the look of the big Bentley :D .
I did happen to see on a restart, the Merc do some wiggling after the green flag,,, did he end up getting pipped for that?

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Well, for me it was a bit different, I only had it on as background for a while, and, although not really my cup of tea, I did like the look of the big Bentley :D .
I did happen to see on a restart, the Merc do some wiggling after the green flag,,, did he end up getting pipped for that?

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No, He didn't get pinged, there was initially some controversy over it, but apparently, at the time he did the "wiggling" it was deemed ok by the "judges"!
Pickles.

Although not my cup of tea, it's a another type of racing and yes it's different to the supercars and production racing, I used to enjoy the old bathurst also, but that's gone now, it's time to move on.

There is lots of production racing out there, even vintage racing from the good old days, only way to make it popular again is go out to the track and watch them.

Anyway my point is, you can't compare the two types, so please keep it on subject, the thread is about the 12hr, if you want to talk about comparisons, start another thread, please.