I think it's a fine line between a weapon and a tool. Some see it as a tool. Some as a weapon. Me? I see knives, machetes and the like as tools, which I can easily justify as such if I'm ever asked.
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I think it's a fine line between a weapon and a tool. Some see it as a tool. Some as a weapon. Me? I see knives, machetes and the like as tools, which I can easily justify as such if I'm ever asked.
Well i guess i could be in strife with my 3d mag light next to my drivers seat if i ever get pulled over [bigwhistle]
Where can i get a licence for that it is not a tool of trade for me nor a illegal weapon [bigrolf]
I did buy it to see of a night time [thumbsupbig]
I should add my tool bag in the rear full oh such dangerous tools:Rolling:
Oh im such a criminal [wink11]
So I guess the chainsaw's made by Landrover then? [bigwhistle]Quote:
Originally Posted by JDNSW
I cant can't believe you all missed this [biggrin]
I found this description of a padang, which says it can be 'an effective weapon', so I guess it could come under the licence rules for knives:
Sumatra, Indonesian Padang Sabit Menangkabau Agricultural Tool/Weapon
Although the Padang Sabit was made as an agricultural tool it serves as an effective weapon
Many martial artists of Indonesia favor this little tool.
This tool has a hand forged blade and a finely carved wooden sheath. The handle is a carved head of Arjuna a Hindu prince from Indonesian mythology.
Size: Overall: 8 inches long x 7½ inches H x 1¼ inches D
Blade: 6¼ Long x 1½ H
Sheath: 7½ Long
Handle: 5½ H x 2¼ W x 1¼ D
Condition: very good - nice patina
Age: 20th Century
Weight: 9 Oz's.
Sumatra Agricultural Tool/Weapon (Indonesian) at Interesting Items - Vintage Collectibles & Folk Art
As it's used in martial arts, maybe you could apply for a licence for it on the basis that it is a martial arts tool, that's assuming you can prove you actually use it in martial arts instruction.
Just a note I was at HellFire Pass last month, amongst other places..
A sobering experience...
Be well.
Husqvarna, actually. And the County does not leak oil into the accommodation! The chainsaw does if I am unwise enough to carry it there. Usually travels in half a chemical drum in the back of the 2a.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chops
Just a note re legal possession and carrying of knives, cutting tools like machetes, tomahawks etc etc. It may be successfully argued that it is a tool of the trade and needed for work. That is all okay if you are on your way to work or on your way home from work.
But.......
If it is your day off work - say the weekend – and you venture down to the local shops with these “tools” still in the car then that "needed for work" argument cannot be justified because you are not coming from or going to work. In this situation you may well find yourself in a whole world of legal hurt if stopped and checked by a law enforcement officer.
Incidentally, this same principle applies to the legal carriage of firearms by licensed firearm owners. If not on your way to go shooting or coming home from shooting then there is no legal reason to have that firearm in your car.
Wow ... there is a lot a poeple that get worked up about this stuff. I'd only bring the machete in if it has any sort of emotional attachment to it (eg: it was a friends etc...). However, make sure you import it properly. If left in the car, customs may simply confiscate it and destroy it .... Failing that, if any of the deck hands or warfies find it .... they may "souvenir" it.
I don't worry about laws as such within reason. Last weekend was our 15th wedding aniversary and boss women was very keen to go on a cruise (she was well aware of my feelings about being stuck bored ****less on a cruise ship). So we headed over to adeliade... Anyway, we walk through the Xray machine at the adelaide docks.... I pull my SOG multi-tool with tiny torch attached, throw it into the container with everything else to go through.... Sure enough we get stopped. "Is there a knife in there"..... "A multi-tool" I say. And they grab my wifes small backpack.... I wave them away.... "No, no ... it's a multi-tool.. it's in the tray over there with everything out of my pockets".... I can see about 3 of them gathering .... and grab that tray ... and my wifes backpack. "Are you sure there is no knife" .... "It's a multi-tool" .... "In that other tray" .... sigh, I didn't even think about it being there, it "lives" on my belt.... If I'd given it half a thought I"d left it in the car.
So they empty my wifes backpack and find a tiny leatherman micro in the bottom.... Then they hold up my keys "can't have this" .... WTF ?? Is a key now considered a weapon. And they remove the 20year old swiss army knife/nail file that I had forgotten even existed on the ring. The blade would be maybe 2cm long .... Then they took everyones scissors and nail files .... ( bloody hell).
a couple of hours later, I'm sitting in the food area with a nice big sharp steak knife in my hand. So, a pair of pliers, set of nail scissor and a 2cm blade are deadly dangerous things, but it's perfectly safe to hand me a steak knife.
See what I mean by declaring your machete so you don't loose it ... :( As dumb as it sounds, even though I've always had a pocket knife in my pocket since I was about 10years old.... and still to this day ( and right now) carry a nice sharp blade inside a multi-tool. I'm still happy for there laws to exist. Realistically a police officer will never search me for a knife, unless I'm doing something stupid..... If I ever put myself into the position where police feel it necessary to search me ... I probably deserve everything that is about to come my way!.... ie: it gives them the ability to search and confiscate weapons for kids gathering in gangs that are obviously upto no good.
seeya,
Shane L.
Sure it can. "I'm on my way to do some work at a family members house..." Etc. My point is there is a justification for having just about any LEGAL item in your car. I fully understand and respect the "within" reach, etc., But why would there be an issue with a machete, parang, Bowie, what have you in the boot or in a toolbox? I keep A LOT of bladed tools in my car and have never had an issue. In Australia or the States.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumbles
It's quite true that normally having the item would not be a problem, just as having a full sized tube of toothpaste is not normally a problem when scanning to board a plane.
But it's the abnormal situations they are concerned about. It only takes one incident of someone doing the wrong thing to ruin it for all of us. It only takes one driver to pull a knife on a cop for the rules to be enforced.
So most people will probably get away with having a knife in their vehicle. But one day, somewhere, it will inevitably become an issue for someone. Do you want to risk that being you?