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Originally Posted by JDNSW

You are probably right, although I have not seen statistics on it. But the general perception at least is that flying requires greater skill and knowledge - as well as the operating skills, and knowledge of regulations, the pilot also requires basic aeronautical knowledge, which in turn requires a significant knowledge of physics, plus (admittedly not for the restricted licence) navigational and map reading skills, none of which have equivalents in driving.

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Yep. All of which means that there is a prerequisite level of intelligence for flying that is not required for driving.
What is required for driving, is an ability to read analyse and predict the actions of other drivers. If you were to record the lessons that you're giving your Grand Children, I'm pretty sure that you would find yourself instructing them in this art. That is why I think they require a greater level of instruction.

I think it's 100 hours in Qld, but I could be wrong.
I'm told some people cheat and make false entries because they are too lazy to put the time into it.
I recommend taking them karting so they can test their limits without hurting anyone.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I think it's 100 hours in Qld, but I could be wrong.
I'm told some people cheat and make false entries because they are too lazy to put the time into it.
I recommend taking them karting so they can test their limits without hurting anyone.

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Yep 100hrs...currently have two kids on L's

Yes some would cheat but my kids wouldn't dare

Mine is about 45 hrs into hers. And I've already been told she's going to only do 80 hrs and fake the rest... In Florida (5 times as many vehicles in 1/10 the space), there is no L's or even P's. You get full license at 16 and can drive whatever you want.

Wow, down here they check and add up the hours on the log book (takes 45 min generally) and then do a basic roadworthy of the licence test vehicle before you go on the drive test. Then it's no Disco V8's but you can drive a Volvo with a 170 HP 5cyl engine. I'll let you guess which is quicker 😄

My five boys (oldest is 8) are already asking when they can get their licence. Three in three years, then a short break till the next two. I'm already stressing about it!!

Does the log book system have any requirement to complete a defensive driving course with an approved instructor ? For me to get a licence would have been possible but without the driving classes , theoretical and practical my personal driving insurance would have been astronomical. Best guess at the time I was paying over $1000 per year . Any infringements would have to be disclosed at renewal time. The premiums then adjusted in accordance. Certainly kept hooning to a rarity.

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Originally Posted by trog

Does the log book system have any requirement to complete a defensive driving course with an approved instructor ? For me to get a licence would have been possible but without the driving classes , theoretical and practical my personal driving insurance would have been astronomical. Best guess at the time I was paying over $1000 per year . Any infringements would have to be disclosed at renewal time. The premiums then adjusted in accordance. Certainly kept hooning to a rarity.

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Yet you still drove on the wrong side of the road. :tease:

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Originally Posted by V8Ian

Yet you still drove on the wrong side of the road. :tease:

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Only enough room for one way on the sidewalk !

Kevin, I did the Queensland Transport Defensive Driving course many years ago. What a total waste of time, my FiL taught me more, he'd done a far better course in the UK, as a lorry driver.