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Originally Posted by johntins
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More than welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by johntins
As a semi-retired bus driver I can vouch for how difficult it is to do school runs. When I eased off from full time driving, the company offered me several school runs and I rejected them out of hand, I will continue to do route work and even then the school kids (particularly primary age school kids) who get on the bus are noisy and sometimes difficult to control. I'm afraid I haven't the patience to nursemaid unruly schoolkids. The problem is if you are distracted from driving (as it appears this bloke might have been) YOU THE DRIVER get the blame if you have an accident and kids are hurt. I don't want anything to do with that.:thumbsdown:
I don`t care if said driver got distracted , Any bus driver in my opinion should be professional with that amount of young or older lives in their control not mentioning anyone else driving on the road with them.
That was just plain dumb and ignorant and i see this every day with any form of vehicle for that .
For example i did a 700 k return country rd trip yesterday and yes how many idiots i saw was un bloody believable .
Not one bloody copper seen oh about half a dozen speed camera`s , So the majority of these people can not maintain speed on a country road and this varied in a 100 k zone they varied from 100 k to 60 k and this was daylight and a clear sunny day at that then you get the tools sit up ya bum in a road construction area , Pass way over posted the limits , Pass on double lines and this was in the day light wait for the trip home:bat:
Lets just say the trip home was very frustrating with a camper in tow how many people that don`t know how to drive with head lights coming at them is astounding , I would have counted maybe 25 cars on country single lane roads that as soon as some heads lights were coming at them the brakes would be jammed on and then there were slight curves that were more than capable of being driven at the posted 100 k limit yep brakes jammed on from maybe 9o k to yes 60 k and below.
All these idiots if they suffered night blindness which my partner in her caring voice tried to justify their stupidness Should not be driving of a night simple .
What i`m getting at here is the level of education for new drivers young old or immigrants ever 457 visa holders is just plain poor , Also the government`s (police) are more on revenue raising with safety devices than actually policing the roads and yeah i get it they are understaffed so who`s fault is it (Goverment).
when i was in primary school, most of our drivers didnt have patience either. if we acted up, the driver would open the front door while doing 60. opening the door causes the brakes to lock on. the bus would come to a screeching halt and kids would go flying. once the bus was stopped, the driver would turn around and ask, did someone want to get off? with all the noise, i thought someone wanted to get off. he would close the doors and keep driving with us all silent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ausfree
cant do that now days.
You are right, you would get the sack if you did that. The rules nowadays are you cannot discipline the kids or raise your voice. The only thing you can do (as one poster has already mentioned) is to stop the bus and wait until the children settle down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
Hmm what makes you think I was referring to anything you said? In fact I have no idea what you have said because I have not read anything you have said and if I was referring to anything you said I would have quoted it.Quote:
Originally Posted by johntins
I saw the interview and just commenting my interpretation of what was said nothing more, nothing less.
Sorry, thought you were keeping up with the thread. No offence meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by garrycol
Unruly kids can certainly be a problem, particularly for a driver on their own.
Kids have to be trained in sensible behaviour on public transport. Parents don't seem to do it much, so it falls on drivers.
On sports days our students are accompanied by teachers and the drivers work for the school and are experienced at handling kids, so the kids quickly learn the score.
Troublemakers are made to sit with the teacher.
If they play up they get banned from the bus next sports day and left at school to do study catch up, so they don't like that.
They usually grow up by about Year 9 and make better choices. Those who don't shape up often end up being expelled.
That all sounds good. However, there are teachers and then there are teachers. On sports days or other short excursions the teacher will generally take control. This is especially so with primary kids. On a school camp? Not so much. 40 plus kids on the bus, with the teachers sitting in the very front seats discussing last night's TV show or whatever that interests them at the time. The poor SOB driving the bus can see in the mirror the stuff going on, and it is ultimately his/her responsibility. I have taken camps to the middle of nowhere, to Dinner Plain over Hotham in the season, into Suggan Buggan and Willis, up from Bairnsdale through Gelantipy. I have taken them along the GOR. I didn't really have time to supervise the kids as well as keep the bus/coach on the road. But I was expected to.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
On school runs, of course, there are no teachers. It is totally up to the driver to be in control. It's not a job for the faint hearted, as kids will soon pick out your weaknesses. A DA and HR Licence in no way trains you for being a school bus driver. That said, some of the best fun I've had has been driving primary school kids, and Probus or Elderly Cits around. Both groups are out to have fun, and the driver gets included.