After The Gatton Shooting

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Originally Posted by rangieman

When ever someone wants to purchase a firearm and this is Vic law unsure of other states but im guessing with little johnny`s reform all states would be similar .

You need a valid reason you have to get approval from the police and you also have a cooling off period.
So us law abiding firearm owners are not the problem here also as a lawful firearm owner the laws are more than stringent enough in my humble opinion.

Now for illegal firearms there is a certain amount of illegal firearms still out there from way before the buyback in 96 that were legal to own which little johnny in his wisdom deemed illegal.

Now these firearms were not registered as some states did not have registration , I will add mine were registered so i lost a couple as if i did not surrender them im guessing a few men in blue would have been paying a vist.

Over the years there were many firearm law changes in all states so there were no uniform laws across the country so any one any where could have acquired said now illegal firearm .
So apart from very few of these illegal firearms still out there the biggest problem is boarder protection rather than making laws harder for the law abiding firearm owner which is only penalising the law abiding owner .

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Yes, good points. I don't see any need to make laws harder for legal gun owners.
The laws do give the police a legal basis to act against owners of illegal weapons.
Personally, I think most people would oppose any move to weaken the protection provided by the gun laws. We certainly don't want to copy the disastrous example of the USA, which leads the world in gun deaths per head.

It's difficult to understand how Switzerland can have a gun culture that seems to work.

How Switzerland Developed a Gun Culture That Works | TIME.com

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Originally Posted by bob10

It's difficult to understand how Switzerland can have a gun culture that seems to work.

How Switzerland Developed a Gun Culture That Works | TIME.com

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And why is it Difficult to understand ?
They have a law enforcement system that is working for the better and worse and people respect it , Unlike our western culture that see`s our law enforcement as some third world policing that should not be adhered to or respected so simple to understand[thumbsupbig],
Also no political or non political bleeding hearts to deal with[wink11]

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Originally Posted by rangieman

And why is it Difficult to understand ?
They have a law enforcement system that is working for the better and worse and people respect it , Unlike our western culture that see`s our law enforcement as some third world policing that should not be adhered to or respected so simple to understand[thumbsupbig],
Also no political or non political bleeding hearts to deal with[wink11]

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I think it is a bit more complex then that. Don't agree with your description of our policing. The last mass murder in Switzerland was 2001, when a gunman burst into a local government meeting and shot numerous people. So they are not squeaky clean. I don't know the statistics of the drug problem in Switzerland, but it would be interesting to find out. Also some members of the Swiss Militia have killed themselves or others with their issued weapons. This resulted in legislation being passed, probably by bleeding hearts, to control this.

Firearms-Control Legislation and Policy: Switzerland | Law Library of Congress