Monis had a gun in his hand. Jean Charles de Menezes didnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by rar110
NSW police screwed up
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Monis had a gun in his hand. Jean Charles de Menezes didnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by rar110
NSW police screwed up
People are quite happy to judge after 2 1/2 years of thinking in retrospect with all the information about decisions made over 16 hrs with conflicting and incomplete information.
I would Love to think that this sort if incident will never happen again But we all know that it Will.
What we really need to do is improve how we prevent these attacks and how we react and stop them when they do happen.
What we are doing now obviously isn't working.
We need to look at how other countries are dealing with this and adopt some of their methods that work.
Having just spent the last 30 mins discussing this with my ex Met neighbour, I could not agree more. I wonder what the response from all the bleeding hearts would be if if it were their brother/sister/mother/you get the picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by rar110
Obama ( you know, Peace Prize and all that ) proved that appeasement does not work, so why do people want to keep trying it?
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Originally Posted by rar110
they would of had better information if they raided monis' house at 11am!
they would of discovered the bomb was fake and been about to make better decisions.
Given his overtly demonstrated issue motivated grievances, propensity for violence and psychopathology, he potentially was easily exploited by extremists with IED capability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
A search of his home would have put the prospect of an IED at 50:50 at best, not discovered or known to be a false claim. Not great odds when playing with 18 lives. Would you trust the police to put your life on red or black at a roulette game?
No question, in retrospect, the NSW police would manage this differently with learnings from the past 2 1/2 years and some new resourcing and capability. But it doesn't guarantee a different outcome.
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Originally Posted by rar110
it would of lead to more information and lead to better decision making.
these are not new learnings. they are old and already in the book.
NSW police could of done more to help prevent two innocent deaths.
However, you're stated position earlier in this thread would have not allowed them to deal with Monis' house prior to the Lindt Cafe incident. You aren't silly, Eevo, you just don't think thing through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
Antagonising Bob, no. Fed up with trolls like you, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
im talking about during the siege.Quote:
Originally Posted by johntins
during the siege, police went to his house at 11am. but they didnt raid it, even though they should have.
even the coroner made mention of it. is the coroner silly too?