Thread: what needs to happen to stop this ?

Originally Posted by bob10

Excuse me, I am being rude. The question was, what can we do about this? The answer is we are no longer in England, or part of her. We are part of Asia. Like it or not. This is the Asian century, and we have to find our place in it. Don't like what they do? Don't go there. And I can tell you the Asians would not give a toss if Australians stayed away. Drunken, boorish oafs have no place as tourists in the new developing Asia. Asian boorish oafs however are tolerated. As the Asian economies get stronger, don't be surprised if Bali is off limits to the main type of holiday maker from Aus. and I would agree. The ugly American is being replaced by the ugly Australian. Oh, BTW, don't buy Monkey on a stick in Singapore, if you don't want to eat dog. Excuse me , the answer? Nothing.

Not rude, Bob. Forthright and honest. I agree, our 'western sensibilities' are fast becoming a thing of the past. Am I sorry to se this? Yes. Does that matter? No.

For the record, I like dogs, as pets and friends, not as entree. But I am part of a very small minority on a global scale.

Originally Posted by johntins

Not rude, Bob. Forthright and honest. I agree, our 'western sensibilities' are fast becoming a thing of the past. Am I sorry to se this? Yes. Does that matter? No.

For the record, I like dogs, as pets and friends, not as entree. But I am part of a very small minority on a global scale.

Yeah mate a dog is a mate. You look after your mates. We don't have to lose our values, we just to make sure we stick , and take no backward step if it comes to our culture. First we have to sort out what our culture is. Is it the 40,000 years of human occupation, or the European culture since 1778? Or a mixture of both? I believe it is a mixture of both. If we don't sort this **** out soon, we may be very sorry.

Originally Posted by bob10

Yeah mate a dog is a mate. You look after your mates. We don't have to lose our values, we just to make sure we stick , and take no backward step if it comes to our culture. First we have to sort out what our culture is. Is it the 40,000 years of human occupation, or the European culture since 1778? Or a mixture of both? I believe it is a mixture of both. If we don't sort this **** out soon, we may be very sorry.

There is a fair case to be mounted that we should be sorry NOW. I'm starting to believe that we no longer HAVE a culture. When something like this is the news of the day, I reckon we're gone:

Nocookies | The Australian

Originally Posted by johntins

There is a fair case to be mounted that we should be sorry NOW. I'm starting to believe that we no longer HAVE a culture. When something like this is the news of the day, I reckon we're gone:

Nocookies | The Australian

Do not despair. Our culture is strong. I believe the angst within mainstream Australia is because they have never been challenged so strongly before, and feel vulnerable. My culture has 40,000 years behind me, plus my European mob. Until we here are prepared to face our internal problems , as our NZ brothers have , we will be just a bunch of *******.

Bob10, I have different tastes to other and they have different tastes to me... I dont like pork, but I like bacon...

Johntins, horse is still eaten in Australia, meat pies in some states contain horse meat from Peterborough abb's... I have eaten horse steak, bred by my family and my mother loved her nags, but also enjoyed eating the odd horse steak too...

The English and europeans ate horse for years and still do as a staple in some parts...

We eat Kangaroos, Emu's, Camels and crocodiles, so why are we whinging about the Asians? Most foreigners I meet, can't understand how we can eat our National Emblems...(and a lot of these guys are hunters(makes you feel mushy when a hunter acts like an AA))..

People have been eating dogs and cats for ages in different parts of the world, even our own desert aboriginals hunt and eat cats.
I don't think the problem here is what is eaten it is more of how the animal is dispatched that is concerning people.
In many parts of Asia dog is considered to be good tucker and is widely accepted fare.
I think that many would be surprised to find out how their meat pack from the supermarket that they buy was produced and how that particular animal died.
There is Nothing pleasant about death But in reality for every hamburger, Chicken nugget or steak you eat an animal has had to be killed to produce it.

People do have strange expectations about food production... Like the woman telling me that woolworths makes there meat out the back of the shop...

Or someone telling how the abb's kill is more humane than the way we do in the paddock...

Another is how clean the abbs and supermarket is but the paddock is full of disease(that one got as it was just after research done about sunlight sterilising to a better standard than the abbs can achieve)..

Also how stock paddock killed dont taste properly because its stressed by the way we kill...

Sadly the only media attention paid about farming and the way the animals are handled and treated, are always about abuse, never about the rest of us, just the odd idiot... If people knew how hard it is for us to kill an animal we watched born, raised, helped when in trouble, fed during late autumn/early winter and then had to decide which one goes into the freezer, they may stop complaining...

A paddock killed beast is far more humanely killed than the one that was killed for the steak bought from the supermarket.
The cow in the paddock is quietly munching on its feed without a care in the world and in an instant a bullet puts it down.
The cow killed at the meat works has been rounded up, yarded and drafted off then it is loaded onto a truck and transported to yet another yard at the sales yards it is then loaded onto yet another truck and taken to the meatworks yards.
On the day the animal is killed it is put into a race with all the other cows and to look into their eyes as they go into the meatworks you just "Know" they are scared ****less.
I have put many a beast, pig or sheep into the cool room and None of them had to suffer like the poor buggers that get shipped off to the meatworks.