Speed limits different for different drivers and other thoughts.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

A Graded system is not only used in aviation it is also used for Marine tickets/licences and they both WORK.
Using a graded system for drivers licences makes perfect sense But if any politician put this forward it would most likely cost Him/her their seat so unfortunately this will never happen[bigwhistle]

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Indeed. No political will for it. Yet people wouldn't dream of boarding a 747 if the bloke flying it had just got his restricted PPL.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I agree with requiring professional driver trying but that is usually only available in capital cities so a problem for rural people.

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That's only because of lazy Governments, and people who believe that driving is a right. I applaud the decision to get your granddaughter a good course. Hopefully they will also teach her that learning does not stop once the licence is achieved and the course is over.

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Originally Posted by johntins

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I would also suggest that driving should be taught in schools, by professionals ( not some dweeb in a Getz who is no better than those he or she is teaching: driving instructors are a joke ), long before they are allowed anywhere near a car on the road. And I don't mean computer sims. Victoria use them for testing, and what's the use of that?
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The school curriculum is already crowded and there are a lot of other pressure groups suggesting that their particular topic should be added.

Which of the three Rs do people think should be cut to allow extra things to be taught?

People do need to be taught, but expecting schools to make up for deficiencies in some other part of society just isn't realistic.

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Originally Posted by vnx205

The school curriculum is already crowded and there are a lot of other pressure groups suggesting that their particular topic should be added.

Which of the three Rs do people think should be cut to allow extra things to be taught?

People do need to be taught, but expecting schools to make up for deficiencies in some other part of society just isn't realistic.

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You think an hour a week from say year 9 is too much to ask? I can think of a number of things my 15 year old granddaughter could easily drop if it meant she stayed alive to enjoy the fruits of the rest of her education.

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Originally Posted by johntins

I would also suggest that driving should be taught in schools, by professionals ( not some dweeb in a Getz who is no better than those he or she is teaching: driving instructors are a joke ), long before they are allowed anywhere near a car on the road.

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We had a course in high school. Year 10 I think it was.
The teacher got his accreditation as a driving instructor. We did a lot of theory. Towards the end of the year, we were driving around the local show grounds in a dual controlled car supplied by the local car dealer.
Pre-driver education we called it.

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Originally Posted by johntins

I would also like to see mandatory re-testing, say, every five years. For EVERBODY, not just the elderly, as is often mooted.

I would also suggest that driving should be taught in schools, by professionals

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pilots have to do a bi-annual flight review. why not drivers?

other countries with good drivers have driving school with sitdown lessons by professionals.

I taught at a school back in the 90s that had a driver education program aimed at children who would soon be old enough to learn to drive.

The NRMA employee responsible for driver education supported our notion that the greatest contribution schools could make to road safety was to improve the attitude of drivers.

Our course didn't try to show drivers how to drive safely. It aimed to show them why they should drive safely. They could get the skills elsewhere. We just tried to influence their attitude.

Many more accidents result from people who don't drive safely than from people who can't drive safely.

That doesn't mean that there are not people whose skills could be improved, but there are many more whose attitude needs to be improved.

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Originally Posted by johntins

and people who believe that driving is a right.

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if it's not a right, what is it? cause it's not a privilege.

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Originally Posted by johntins

You think an hour a week from say year 9 is too much to ask? I can think of a number of things my 15 year old granddaughter could easily drop if it meant she stayed alive to enjoy the fruits of the rest of her education.

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The evidence suggests that it would be better for the school to teach her why she should drive safely rather than trying to teach her how to drive safely.

Poor attitude kills more than poor skills.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

if it's not a right, what is it? cause it's not a privilege.

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