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    I have contacted the Tech Officers at Welshpool RTA about lifts ect ect .... this is what i was told .....

    2 inch lift is it , that includes wheels , suspension , and body lift ....but they will accept up to 75 mm as the max lift whilst the law is still being worked out ...nothing is actually been drafted as yet .The old 4x4 Act he said was from 1962 when Landrover didn't have a hope in hell of over taking a turtle let alone be lifted .... he said
    The new 4x4 Act [ which still hasn't been drafted ] will have a lane change test , but this is only compulsary if you want it all engineered at this point ....he said that he has heard of 3 inch lifts in 4x4's going straight over the pits at this time [ i know mine did 4 weeks ago ] 2inch over springs and 32 inch tires one inch body lift and i have the paperwork to prove it :wink:

    The lane change test will cost you around $1500 inc of engineer , C.A.M.S driver and hire of track and pit pass of RTA ... even less if you can arrange more than 2 of you to go thru on the day :wink:

    The main thing they check for is braking and body roll he said .

    He aslo said if I have any further questions or want to know the in's and out's of it all to ring a guy called Russell at Oppisite Lock Balcatta as he has put a heap thru ......

    Hope this helps you out .....I don't know who was more confused me or the Tech at Welshpool RTA

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    thanks

    Well thanks for all the info, at least I won't look quite as dumb when I go get some new tyres :-)

    I will go for the 2" sus lift and keep the 15" rims and go for a slightly higher sidewall (245).
    Am i right in saying I won't need to get it inspected as long as it's only 2"?

    I have two pretty decent (60%ish) font tyres (hankook, AT's) so I will only need to get a couple of new ones for the back.

    Come to think of it, the front tyres are 235's and I want 245's on the back, apart from looking a bit bigger would this have an impact on anything? safety, handing etc?
    I know it seems a bit tight fisted only getting two new tyres but if I can save three or four hundered bucks for now it can be put towards my sus lift :-)


    By the way this is not my daily ride so as long as it's safe & legal and will do the job I'm happy.

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    Re: thanks

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    Well thanks for all the info, at least I won't look quite as dumb when I go get some new tyres :-)

    I will go for the 2" sus lift and keep the 15" rims and go for a slightly higher sidewall (245).
    Am i right in saying I won't need to get it inspected as long as it's only 2"?

    I have two pretty decent (60%ish) font tyres (hankook, AT's) so I will only need to get a couple of new ones for the back.

    Come to think of it, the front tyres are 235's and I want 245's on the back, apart from looking a bit bigger would this have an impact on anything? safety, handing etc?
    I know it seems a bit tight fisted only getting two new tyres but if I can save three or four hundered bucks for now it can be put towards my sus lift :-)


    By the way this is not my daily ride so as long as it's safe & legal and will do the job I'm happy.
    Are you sure they are 15's? It's just 15's are normally an imperial size (31,32,33 etc) where as 16's are normally metric (235, 245 etc). This is not always the case, but is more common with4x4 tyres.

    I would change all 4 myself, not just because you then have the same tread pattern on each corner, but then the tyres should be the same diameter on all 4 wheels for a number of reasons. One of which is looking after your centre diff.

    Having said that, when quoting a metric size tyre, just cause one is 235 and one is 245 it doesn't me they are different rolling diameter, it also depends on the next number, so it could be 235/85/15 or 245/75/15. The first number is the width of the tyre, the next is the height of the sidewall as a % of the width, the third is the rim size.

    Clear as mud??? :roll: :wink:

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    Unless I am mistaken you need to have the front and rear tyres matching in size.

    I think you can even be booked if the tread pattern is differant.


    I lifted my old Disco 2 inches and added some spring blocks to the rear end (1 inch) worked great for me, ran 245's all round.
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    I beleive the new laws they are looking at for all of Aus is a max of 2 inches in total or you need an engineer. Don't know when that will be brought in though.

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    Re: thanks

    Are you sure they are 15's? It's just 15's are normally an imperial size (31,32,33 etc) where as 16's are normally metric (235, 245 etc). This is not always the case, but is more common with4x4 tyres.
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    Tyres are def. 235/75/15's so I am assuming they are 15" rims or they wouldn't fit. I have only seen these rims once before on an oldish defender, they are alloy with a centre cap that covers all of the wheel studs and square holes around the outside of the rim nearest the tyres.

    Looks like I'd best buy new tyres all around (bigbugga) I don't want to get booked.

    I guess I'll get the 2" lift sorted and when I HAVE to get those new tyres I'll get 245's.
    Maybe when this new law thing comes in I might have another look at the lift options.
    To be honest though the few times I've been off road the RR have has exceded expectations so any lift would just be a bonus

    Can't wait to get it back from the mechanic!!

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    Just remember, lift of it's self doesnt do much except help approach and departure angles. You only need enough lift to fit the tyres you want to run.

    You may net need a lift or only a minor one to accomodate the new tyre size.

    To give you and idea, I have a total of 3 1/2 inches of lift, which is all I need to fit 35x12x15 on my rangie (1985 4 door).

    The truck looks in proportion, so I don't get hasseled by the cops (it's engineered anyway), and by keeping it low(ish), it is a lot more stable off road.



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    well I don't really need a lift I expect the 245's will fit no problem but I need new shocks and springs anyway.
    It rolls around like a boat and does the noddy dog if you break slightly harder than normal.

    I thought if I was getting replacements then a 2" lift woudn't do any harm, would hardly cost anymore and it's legal so I though why not.

    I hope that I won't get any hassle with just a 2" lift.

    By the way my 235's are nowhere as big as the tyres you have on you RR and 245's (which is what I'll get) I think are only a touch higher.
    It's good you have a pic of you RR dirty, to me they just don't look right all shiney and clean

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