Thread: Britain to ban diesel and petrol vehicles

Originally Posted by Fifth Columnist

The caravan industry will die.

Why? Electric will become the standard. The infrastructure will follow. Don't you believe in the free market? If there's a buck to be made, the demand will be met.
Monier is already selling solar roof tiles. A hundred makes 3kw of power. It's happening.

Originally Posted by Wraithe

Then your back to an internal combustion engine...

How much oil can you grow per hectare, and remember, one bad crop no more go go juice... Also we would have to be proficient in the production of home made fuel...

Consider a tractor using 500 litres every 12 hours, 2 shifts a day, thats a minimum of a 1,000 litres, per day... Cropping program taking 4 weeks = ???
Then what about the other machinery needed, ie truck with seed and fert, equipment to load from truck to air seeder, fuel truck to be on hand...
Then you have to harvest the crops, another large fuel use and more fuel needed...
On an average farm in WA, your probably talking about 1,000 hectares of crop so you have the fuel to work the farm...

It all adds up, the system that is in use now, took decades to be adopted country wide, and that was after it had been proven...

How long before they can produce a viable system for farming without fuels?

Forcing a change like solar, can only end in tragedy, no food, cities will fall...

So many "what if's". What if the diesel supply ship is delayed by war? What if a flood takes out the road that the tanker comes to your town on? What if some dick drains your bulk tank out onto the ground? What if your neighbours won't help you during an outage? What if the sun went out for a month? Farmers will always find something to whinge about but on the other hand they will find solutions to keep going if possible. Society won't die just because we use locally sourced energy instead of Middle East oil. And because very few people actually care all that much for the environment the change will be driven by economics. Cheaper is usually better where business is concerned.

Originally Posted by bee utey

. Society won't die just because we use locally sourced energy instead of Middle East oil.

Actually oil for our fuel comes from 300 k's north of Perth... The stuff that is imported to WA is for products from heavy base oil as our local oil is light crude...

Most of the oil from the Nth West Shelf is exported from WA...

We will probably still be selling oil in a hundred or so years time...

We wont run out of oil in WA in my lifetime or probably my kids either...

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Why? Electric will become the standard. The infrastructure will follow. Don't you believe in the free market? If there's a buck to be made, the demand will be met.
Monier is already selling solar roof tiles. A hundred makes 3kw of power. It's happening.

You only need 3,500 watts + 10% to boil the kettle...

Elon Musk says cheaper Tesla electric car will be 'manufacturing hell' at first Elon Musk admits delivering cheaper Tesla electric car Model 3 will be 'challenge' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) - via @abcnews

As the UK plans to phase out petrol cars, is Australia being left behind?

As the UK plans to phase out petrol cars, is Australia being left behind? | Environment | The Guardian

typical fear headline.

are we missing out?

Another 10 to 20 years if I am lucky will see me out So this issue if of little concern to me anyway.
All this talk about electric cars is probably a lot of hot air from people that are out of touch with reality and the fuel companies will be loving it so that they can jack up their prices even more.
Does anyone really believe that the military will go all electric and bloody good luck working out how to viably and successfully run an aircraft on electricity.
The same rhetoric was rife in the seventies during the oil embargo and we all know what that did to fuel prices and yet we still haven't run out of oil and are not likely to do so in the near future.