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    I'm retired, mostly, so I looked up jobs I used to do and the honorary one I still do. Jobs I used to do can be 44% done by machine - but the tasks that are listed as being done by machine are not ones that I did, nor are most of the ones listed as still left to be done by humans. Whoever designed the algorithm clearly has no idea what most jobs actually entail.

    However, I do think that the general thrust is correct. A lot of the jobs that people do today will be at least partly replaced by smart machines in the future. But really, is this anything more than we have seen all our lives? and our parents? Think about it.

    When I entered the workforce, there were only about half a dozen computers in Australia, electronic calculators did not exist, photocopiers did not exist, fax machines hardly existed. Just in this very limited field, think about how many jobs have disappeared? How many typists are working today? My first job title was "computer", which meant what it said - I did calculations with a pencil and paper, and these were checked by another "computer".

    As technology improves, more jobs are lost, but in fact this is something that has been happening ever since the start of the industrial revolution. Maybe a bit faster today, but still the same sort of thing.

    Go back another generation, and think of all the cleaning staff put out of work by vacuum cleaners, and all the labourers put out of work by forklifts, ostlers, farriers etc put out of work by motor transport, lamplighters by electric light, stokers by mechanical stokers.

    I don't really see it as something particularly new. It has resulted in a lot more leisure time for ordinary workers in my lifetime. Working hours per week have possibly increased slightly, but consider that when I started work, most people started work at fifteen, today few start before their early twenties, often mid twenties. When I started, almost nobody got more than two weeks annual leave, long service leave was available only to a very few who worked more than fifteen years with one of a few large employers. So the average working hours over a lifetime are definitely significantly less.
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    Our neighbor had a heart operation by a robot. She said at least she knew the robot wasn't drunk!

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    Maybe the only saving grace will be that increasing energy costs may eventually make it cheaper to employ a person rather than a machine
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    I remember reading an Asimov story in which each person lived separately, surrounded entirely by machines, and only communicated with other humans remotely. As I remember, they were very unfulfilled with their lives. So I guess the most necessary jobs in the future will be those which involve contact between humans. We are social animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I remember reading an Asimov story in which each person lived separately, surrounded entirely by machines, and only communicated with other humans remotely. As I remember, they were very unfulfilled with their lives. So I guess the most necessary jobs in the future will be those which involve contact between humans. We are social animals.
    Ah, yes. I think that might have been the short story "Little Lost Robot".
    I'll have to read it again.

    From what I remember, they were very happy working for the betterment of society in isolation on an asteroid. They did socialize with other humans via a 3d video link. I didn't get the impression they felt unfulfilled. I always thought it was a utopian dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Our neighbor had a heart operation by a robot. She said at least she knew the robot wasn't drunk!
    The thing is, in surgery, the robots are controlled by surgeons. The surgical robots are not autonomous.
    As of April 2017, autonomous surgical robots were still in the realms of science fiction. It will be a long time before any are approved for human use.
    Accept for a second that robot surgeons exist. Who will check they're up to the job – and how? • The Register

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    Apparently robots could replace a mere 14% of what I do. Even better, on reading the list of tasks easy to automate I didn't recognise any of them as part of my job. On the strange side, I didn't recognise the 86% of my tasks that a robot can't do either!


    I must be in the wrong job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    No, but, the work I do is being shipped offshore to places like India, Thailand and Malaysia.

    That partially explains why we are getting buildings built with flammable cladding and asbestos ceiling tiles.
    And plant with silicone welds.
    I wouldn't be too worried Mick. Jobs that flowed off shore from the US are beginning to trickle back. I'd imagine that the same will happen here. Apparently it's due to increasing wages in India and Asia, incompatible time zones, and a high level of customer dissatisfaction.
    Cheers, Billy.
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    Even the Chinese are building new plants in Myanmar and Vietnam to cut costs. Fly into Yangon and it is surrounded by new Chinese-controlled factories

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I remember reading an Asimov story in which each person lived separately, surrounded entirely by machines, and only communicated with other humans remotely. As I remember, they were very unfulfilled with their lives. So I guess the most necessary jobs in the future will be those which involve contact between humans. We are social animals.
    If you look up Social workers you will sea that they are least likely to be robotised.
    Cheers, Billy.
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