Interesting articles. just supports the premise speeding fines are just a form of indirect taxation.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeJay
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Interesting articles. just supports the premise speeding fines are just a form of indirect taxation.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeJay
Thank You, Yes, that is "the spot"!Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeJay
Pickles.
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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh
Not like the 60 or so who claimed the spped camera are faulty whom were found to all have been actually speeding?
It is an optional tax. Speed and you pay it- I did [thumbsupbig] ( no more for me) Smoke and you pay it, Drink wine, beer, spirits we pay it.
Blaming the govenment for our choices is not in my view at all reasonable. I am no saint. Know for some rather high speed long runs on a motor bike as well as megga high speed run in a Skyhawk once[biggrin]
2003-2012 Fatalities and serious injuries Over the last ten years on average:
- 47 pedestrians were killed in Victoria each year
- more than 690 pedestrians were seriously injured in Victoria each year.
Stats below however suggest it is a form of almost euthinasia with most 70+ year olds hogging the fatality lists with over 33% [bigsad].
Pedestrian statistics - TAC - Transport Accident CommissionThey also show a significant reduction after the introduction of 40kph zones
I would be very happy to see higher speed limits on many roads. Not near or around schools as honestly the few but highly noticeable pathetic and selfish drivers I see often at schools need much more than a little fine. Voluntry tax people [bighmmm] Star Weekly | Police catch speeding drivers near schools My tin foil hat is on for the feed back :)
Guess what Pickles? I agree with you this time. Hows that?
Speed limits should not be set by Governments but by a Standards Commission.
Fines are an utterly inequitable form of punishment.
The points system could do with an overhaul as well.
While we're at it: Speed humps should be eradicated. The most ridiculously illogical device for traffic calming.
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I sometimes wonder what the Statistics would be if every street or road was at the bottom of a 60 Meter precipice rimmed by the curb, and pedestrian crossings were populated by nasty little Trolls who like pushing people off.Quote:
Originally Posted by NavyDiver
Aren't speed limits set by committees of representatives of police, ambos, firies, main roads, local councils and others?Quote:
Originally Posted by cuppabillytea
A Camel is a Horse designed by a Committee.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
Speed limitation is really a job for experts, not for a gaggle of opinionated Gees.
Example: The speed limit in Balmain and half of Rozelle is 40 Ks. In the other half of Rozelle, it's 50 Ks, despite conditions being identical. In Liberty St Stanmore (Where nobody dares go faster than 30Ks} it's 60 Ks despite even worse conditions.
Do you get my drift?
No "Drifting" here Mate . I stick to the speed limits [bigrolf]Quote:
Do you get my drift?
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Originally Posted by trout1105
can easily drift and not break the speed limit [bigrolf]
Yes, and I know there are many inconsistencies, but engineers do try to design roads for particular speeds, so council and main roads engineers should have some clues about the safe speeds for particular roads.Quote:
Originally Posted by cuppabillytea
Mind you, they screw up some times, and there are also other factors related to safety.
Another factor is that vehicle brakes are improving all the time, so motorists drive faster, thinking they can still pull up in time.
Another issue is if pedestrians are likely to move onto a particular road, which can be unpredictable. Fencing the median strip seems to be one response.
