Thread: "Demerit" Points.

Originally Posted by Eevo

can easily drift and not break the speed limit

When you're on Ice perhaps?

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

When you're on Ice perhaps?

you have much to learn young padawan

Speeding, school zones....


NT lowered there speed limit, many years ago... Road toll increased after that... I think they upped the limit but not to its original...
Its really not the speed that kills or maims, its the sudden stop that does that...
One of our problems is the lack of experience at speed, the lack of attention to others on the road and the lack of due care, so at least one of those three applies to everyone and that spells a problem...
You could travel certain roads at speed and have no problems as long as you respected the areas you needed to be cautious of and slow down in areas of traffic, but those days have been gone for at least 20+ years...
(ie, 19 hours to Adelaide from Perth), Can't do that now...

School zones, there is no safe speed through a school zone... 25 or 40 or 100, makes no difference...

Reason, child got hit in southern suburbs of Perth, around the 1990's.. estimated car speed, 5kph... Dead, instantly...
Police office friend, lost his best friend, when hit by car in school zone, CCTV camera showed that vehicle was doing approximately 7 kph(around 1998)...
A child in a country town, hit by 4x4, Police doing speed check clocked car at 11 kph, child dead instantly...
Child hit by car at 83 kph, in school zone and Police caught driver, child had gravel rash burns on legs, arms and side of face, bragged about doing a double flip(also friend of my niece), go figure hey!

Its not the speed, its the amount of children coming out without due care and every parent wanting to park at the gate to get children, thus you have a mass of potential accidents...
Is there a solution, probably not but my advice is, more children and traffic, the slower you should go...

I have a name for the times that the kids are getting dropped off and picked up, I call it "Mad Mother Hour" and do my very best to stay well away from any school zones at those times.

Originally Posted by trout1105

I have a name for the times that the kids are getting dropped off and picked up, I call it "Mad Mother Hour" and do my very best to stay well away from any school zones at those times.

and the main street of town or the shops for that matter, between 3 and 4.30, town is a no go zone for me, no parking, no sidewalk so I no go...

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Can you give any evidence to support your claim?

Can only say it was from a source that works with the dept. They said happening soon, but I should have clarified just how soon.
Probably not a bad idea, if nothing else it will give the industry a bit of a boost and that can only lead to a few more jobs hopefully. It's not like the inspection fee goes straight into govt coffers. But then I'm not sure how it works in other states.

Originally Posted by Clip

Can only say it was from a source that works with the dept. They said happening soon, but I should have clarified just how soon.
Probably not a bad idea, if nothing else it will give the industry a bit of a boost and that can only lead to a few more jobs hopefully. It's not like the inspection fee goes straight into govt coffers. But then I'm not sure how it works in other states.

The evidence I want to see is that which supports your statement that defective vehicles contribute significantly to crashes. Queensland has always stated that annual inspections detect fewer defects than random roadside inspections, and that mechanical issues are, statistically, an insignificant contribution to crashes.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

The evidence I want to see is that which supports your statement that defective vehicles contribute significantly to crashes. Queensland has always stated that annual inspections detect fewer defects than random roadside inspections, and that mechanical issues are, statistically, an insignificant contribution to crashes.

I think that is the case for all over Australia, Ian.