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Thread: A sad day for Victoria, south Australia and Australia as local car production ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickles2 View Post
    Absolutely spot on my friend, "on the wall for years but no one wanted to read it",...ain't that the truth.
    The real blame lies with those in Detroit, who for years made Detroit/Dearborn U.S. biased decisions at the expense of Aussie Holden & Ford, including moving with the times to produce a vehicle that Aussies actually wanted to buy.
    Pickles.
    Never going to happen..

    Why would you tool up for a market that has an insignificant volume compared to the world when other factories can produce the vehicle in their current configuration.

    The USA has always protected its market, hence why their biggest selling vehicle (Japanese) has a production facility in the USA.

    We were never going to be a winner on the international stage... shipping negated much of that and other markets already had similar competing products.

    As for tax free or reduced export costs - we were there.. that crap little Capri was sold in the USA for 50% of the local price, Mitsubishi exported to the USA with higher specifications than Aussie premium models, Holden shipped GTOs to the USA. And 4cyl Calais/Statesman’s to Singapore...

    We were never going to be competitive- heck Holden’s most equipped base model took the VF to even come close to overseas offerings...

    Aussie manufacturing took locals for fools and kept the features from the average punter who went elsewhere looking for value.

    Long before tax breaks and subsidies were stopped all the players had prepared to leave...

    Aussie built cars were sourcing parts from several local suppliers who had for years been manufacturing their parts overseas, I know of 3 in SA who switched to that 15 years ago, and just did a fraction of the work once the parts landed in AU.

    Did nobody notice that Holden took less than 24 hours after subsidies were cancelled to announce closure, ran an already produced advertisement on TV and had a full scale wind down plan in place by that week!

    We should be pleased these companies had chosen to operate in Australia for as long as they did - as they’re all foreign owned, and almost always have been...

    Looking at the car park here at work - there’s 3 locally produced vehicles - all over 5 years old. The rest are Euro, Thai or Japanese (and a Frog thing for good measure)....

    Speaks volumes on where market wants are positioned, certainly not in the offerings locally.

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    That's the thing tombie, we missed the boat that the euros /uk where smart enough to grab. China is now the world largest car market, and all of the euro/U.K. Manufacturing car companies export there. To the point that a lot of their premium models outsell both their country of origin and the USA in volume . Now last time I checked we where a fair bit closer to China than either the EU or USA, and another emerging market with more middle class than the entire population of the USA is also closer to us than either EU/USA. India.... with 350-400 million middle class to wealthy they are going to be a similar sized vehicle market to China. Thailand realised this and as a result will export 1million cars with plans to double that. They understand that building 2 million plus cars will create several hundred thousand direct full time regular paid jobs, a huge increase in skill levels, with massive income tax and income into the country. That they like us are positioned between to massive emerging markets that will grow for a long time. We didn't ...

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    There was no we... the USA heads of our local manufacturing arms were given a very specific directive by their government when the GFC hit and they all needed to be bailed out over there...

    Bring your manufacturing back home....

    And that’s essentially exactly what they’ve done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    There was no we... the USA heads of our local manufacturing arms were given a very specific directive by their government when the GFC hit and they all needed to be bailed out over there...

    Bring your manufacturing back home....

    And that’s essentially exactly what they’ve done.
    Umm no?
    of the 3 manufacturers that left, only one imports a car from the USA , mustang anyone, rest are Asia and euro sources.
    This article really shows the figures, from 2016 ( their models sales have gone up since then)and Thailand imports where number one at over 23,000 per month........ Revealed: Where your new car comes from

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    A sad day for Victoria, south Australia and Australia as local car production ends.

    I’ve been aware of that for years..

    So...Let me rephrase. Bring non-volume/non-profitable manufacturing back home.

    And as the Big Family Sedans market is well covered by volume plants. Australia’s **** ant volumes are nothing...

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