Truck Driver Tailgating?,...in the "Nanny State"..Yeah right.

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Originally Posted by Wraithe

WA secede?? What a load of crap...

Read your history, the rest of Australia made loud and noisy promises for WA to join the rest as we where a self governed colony...
Lots of promises including a railway, well thats about all the arrived, the rest was take take take... WA needs to pay for all the protection that is it hasnt recieved...

Check out history, WA was going to be left for the Imperial Japanese to own, WA grows more serial crops than any other state, WA has more iron ore, more gold, more graziers, more foreign workers, especially from the East and more taken from here...

Why do we recieve less returns, because we have less population, thus less votes to care about...

If you dont want WA to be part of Australia, I would be happy to be seperated from the East... We already have the necassary industry to build our own Navy ships, and plenty of area to train a defense force, just need to put a wall up between Eucla and Kununara..

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Some half truths in those statements:

There was a myth about a "Brisbane Line" where the early war Menzies Government would abandon northern Australia, a basic line across the continent from roughly Brisbane, which left Perth below the line. However no official plan or document was ever found and they even had a royal commission during the war to investigate if such a plan existed. A plan was never found although there were various plans to defend the more important regions and Fremantle and Perth were included in those important regions. Brisbane Line | The Australian War Memorial

WA has produced about:
2 1/2 times as much gold as the rest of the country this year.
220 times the amount of Iron Ore as the rest of the country, but didn't process any of it into steel.
42% of the wheat grown in Australia

Although WA only produced
1/70 the amount of lead as the rest of Australia
1/28 the amount of coal as either NSW or Qld (or 1/58 the amount as the rest of Australia)
1/20 the amount of copper as the rest of Australia
1/12 the amount of silver as the rest of Australia
0% of the uranium mined in Australia
1/21 the amount of tin mined in Australia
1/29 the amount of zinc mined in Autralia
1/3 the volume of barley as the rest of Australia.
1/10 the volume of triticale as the rest of Australia
1/681 the volume of grain sorghum as the rest of Australia
1/67 the volume of corn maize
0% of the 626kt of cotton seed as the rest of Australia
1/11 the dairy cows in Australia
1/30 the whole milk produced in Australia

I guess what I'm saying is that different regions produce according to the presence of minerals or their agricultural suitability. We are all better off as a single nation than as individual states.

Sources:
Department of Industry Chief Economists Resources and Energy Quarterly Report 2017
ABARES Agricultural Commodity Statistics 2016

I would think that WA contributes to the National purse rather well considering that it only has a bit over 10% of Australia's population [bigwhistle]

Well,, there was this truck once,,,,,,,, [bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Some half truths in those statements:

There was a myth about a "Brisbane Line" where the early war Menzies Government would abandon northern Australia, a basic line across the continent from roughly Brisbane, which left Perth below the line. However no official plan or document was ever found and they even had a royal commission during the war to investigate if such a plan existed. A plan was never found although there were various plans to defend the more important regions and Fremantle and Perth were included in those important regions. Brisbane Line | The Australian War Memorial

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Still a Myth?

A treasure trove of documents detailing how Australia was to be subjected to a scorched-earth policy if Japan had invaded 75 years ago has been uncovered in an amazing chance discovery.
Heritage consultant Sue Rosen, researching dusty Forestry Commission files held in the NSW State Records centre in western Sydney, stumbled across the files in 2012. After two years of digging for further files, she has published them in a book, Scorched Earth, to be released next Wednesday.
The files shed light on the controversial Brisbane Line — a reputed strategy of the wartime Menzies government to abandon most of Australia to the invaders and concentrate on defending the nation’s southeast, where most people lived and most industrial capacity was centred.
The 1943 federal election was fought on war policy and resulted in a record majority for Labor prime minister John Curtin, who called a royal commission to investigate the Brisbane Line allegations. It was never proved that the government was prepared to abandon towns and cities outside the southeast, but a popular belief lingered that this was so. The documents discovered by Dr Rosen will add to this belief.
Dr Rosen was researching the Murray River red gum forests of southern NSW when she came across the documents. Her job was to prepare signage and inform*ation plaques at public facilities managed by the NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service.
Then she called up Forestry Commission File 3/5944. Instead of details of river red gums around Moama, she read phrases such as “Total War” and “Battle Stations for All”. “As I read on, it dawned on me I had found buried treasure,” Dr Rosen said.
“I couldn’t believe my eyes, nor could I get the smile off my face. This sort of find sets your heart racing and I could not let it go.”
The yellowing, tatty pages in the file were compiled by Harold Swain, the NSW Commissioner of Forests, who in 1942 chaired the scorched-earth sub-committee of the NSW government’s state war effort co-ordination committee.
Swain was a bluff, outspoken character, “with an ego the size of the Melbourne Cricket Ground”, who loved to get involved in fights with politicians and academics, according* to his biographer, Peter Holzworth.
The files first uncovered were incomplete, so Dr Rosen set off to find the missing parts, which she did by accessing documents held by other departments.
Soon she had the full scorched-earth plans, described by fellow historian and author Peter Grose as “a treasure trove, a goldmine, a cornucopia of rich Australian history”.
“We know that Sydney, *Melbourne, Brisbane and *Canberra were to be defended at all costs: too bad if you lived in Darwin, Perth, Adelaide or *Hobart, still worse if you lived in Alice Springs or Townsville,” Mr Grose writes in a foreword to Dr Rosen’s forthcoming book.
Publication comes between two of the most significant dates in World War II history: the Battle of the Coral Sea and the 75th anniver*sary of the Japanese submarine *attack on Sydney Harbour on the night of May 31, 1942.

Source: The Australian

Australian Exports 2015/16 $312.3 Billion .

WA 35.2% @ $109.9 Billion

NSW 22.8% @ $71.1Billion

Q/land 20.01 @ $62.6 Billion

Vic 13.7 @ $42.4 Billion

SA 4.6% @ $14.4 Billion

Tas 1.2%

ACt 0.5% Probably hot air .

Think that just about says it all !! . [bigwhistle][bigwhistle]

OK that's enough please, if you want to talk about the GST and WA's share start another thread.

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Originally Posted by Wraithe

First mistake, Greenmount...

East/west truck drivers are like the mouthy moron at the bar, thinks he owns the whole bar and can push anyone around... I can tell you, they get real upset when you overtake them going up a hill, because they are slowing you up too much, and they go ballistic when they find out you weigh twice the weight they do... Just nutters on that road, my advice(which is what I do) avoid Grt Eastern Highway, especially through the hills until Past Northam...

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Bit hard to avoid the hill when I lived in up near Mundaring - buggered if I was going to go home the long way after nightshifts. The particular truck that I was refering to was a BGC truck, no shortage of stories of crappy driving from those guys floating around on the local facebook pages......

Lets recalculate that by land area:

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Originally Posted by Fatso

Australian Exports 2015/16 $312.3 Billion .

WA 35.2% @ $109.9 Billion or $43.4408815 / sq km

NSW 22.8% @ $71.1Billion or $88.8038459 / sq km

Q/land 20.01 @ $62.6 Billion or $36.1714434 / sq km

Vic 13.7 @ $42.4 Billion or $186.4424667 / sq km

SA 4.6% @ $14.4 Billion or $14.6418541 / sq km

Tas 1.2%

ACt 0.5% Probably hot air .

Think that just about says it all !! . [bigwhistle][bigwhistle]

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Which makes another way of saying it all

Victoria much more efficient using their land than everyone else even NSW doubles the land use efficiency of WA. [bigrolf]

I don't know why we are discussing this ?

Yesterday I was driving the F3 southbound and there were cars pacing themselves adjacent in both lane 1 and lane 2 travelling 30 kph below the car speed limit and 20 below the truck limit with a tailback of 3 B doubles a couple of semis and the 6X4 rigid I was driving. Everyone was riding their brakes trying not to tailgate the cars, took about 5 km before the one in lane 2 moved to lane 1.

Interesting that on TV tonight, one of the regular traffic cop shows, they pulled over a driver doing around 80 clicks in the right hand lane of a 4 lane freeway in Melb. Pulled her over and gave her a warning, however, the cop stated he could have given her a ticket for impeding traffic flow.

She was traveling in the far right hand lane,, didn't give any other info about the other lanes though.

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Originally Posted by Chops

Interesting that on TV tonight, one of the regular traffic cop shows, they pulled over a driver doing around 80 clicks in the right hand lane of a 4 lane freeway in Melb. Pulled her over and gave her a warning, however, the cop stated he could have given her a ticket for impeding traffic flow.

She was traveling in the far right hand lane,, didn't give any other info about the other lanes though.

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It was reported in the local papers a couple of years ago of a granny travelling in lane 3 of the M5 toll road at 80kph and despite lights and sirens it took 28km before she pulled over for the Highway Patrol.