Thread: Can the seller be also liable - Duty of Care?

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

It's been known to have incorrect information on it before. Hence the disclaimers.

But you referred to a ruling. That implies an authority has reviewed the legislation and given an interpretation on that legislation.

Where is that ruling and by what authority?

Tell you what if you think that the rule on the Vic Roads page is wrong then how about you put up the evidence that it is wrong, Until then as far as I am concerned the part where Nothing is to be towed behind a caravan stands because it is written in black and white without any ambiguity whatsoever on a Government webpage.

Originally Posted by trout1105

Tell you what if you think that the rule on the Vic Roads page is wrong then how about you put up the evidence that it is wrong, Until then as far as I am concerned the part where Nothing is to be towed behind a caravan stands because it is written in black and white without any ambiguity whatsoever on a Government webpage.

So it is written also on govt. websites covering NSW, WA, Qld. in addition to Vic.

Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

So it is written also on govt. websites covering NSW, WA, Qld. in addition to Vic.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, It's a Conspiracy.
They are all lying

Finally found this on the South Australian Dept of Transport website.

Both vehicles constituting the combination must
meet registration requirements and be roadworthy.
The coupling and towbar must not obscure the
number plate or lights on the rear of the towing
vehicle when the towed vehicle is not attached.
Regulations prohibit towing more than one vehicle or
trailer at once.
When towing, the maximum speed at which you
may tow is the posted speed limit.

Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

"Oh, and it is not a road train. That is your opinion that it is. Where does it say it is a road train?"

Well, look at the Qld. Road Rules. A vehicle pulling a full trailer or a prime mover pulling a single semi-trailer is not a road train. Add another full trailer and it is a road train. A car towing a caravan and another trailer behind that is clearly a road train according to the regulations. Some might argue that it is a b-double as there is some tow ball weight placed on the forward vehicles but this is minimal compared to the weight placed on the turntables of a normal commercial b-double so I prefer the road train analogy.

It can't be a road train without a converter dolly.

Let’s just keep it clear guys...

State rules everywhere also state the maximum level of modifications to vehicles..

And yet, with the proper engineering applications and specs *almost* anything can be rendered road legal...

And whilst we (generalisation) may consider this rig a bad idea, it is quite common in places like the USA..

And here is Tasmania's input.

From Tasmanian Road Rules on Dept. of Transport website.

Caravans and trailers
You can only tow one caravan or trailer.
It must be securely attached to the towing vehicle by a mechanical coupling and a safety chain. Check the
mechanical coupling to make sure it’s properly adjusted.
All caravans and trailers must have:
● indicator lights
● rear reflectors close to the corners
● tail lights and stop lights
● a number plate light.
A caravan or trailer and its load must not be more than 2.5 metres wide, 4.3 metres high and 19 metres long
(including the towing vehicle).
There are legal limits on the mass of a trailer or caravan that can be towed. Call 1300 135 513 for more
information.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

It can't be a road train without a converter dolly.

Ian, in 2007 there were 2 or 3 body tippers pulling a dog tipper and a pig tipper behind that. No dolly. Pulling sand, gravel, road base, x-blend etc. out of pits near Katherine. Don't know if they were legal, on permit, or just in the NT manner didn't ask for permission. My cousin's husband had three conventional triple side tippers working out of the same pits at the time.