Can the seller be also liable - Duty of Care?

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Originally Posted by weeds

Mick, can you show proof the combination is actually legal in VIC....seen paperwork, sign offs etc. or is it just word of mouth, mate of a mate.

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I have posted up a newspaper article and a photo of the rig in Wentworth NSW.
I could post up the registration numbers of the 4WD, van and boat trailer but that will only tell you these vehicles are registered, which is what the same information the registration renewals tell.

The fact is, the fellow is regularly seen driving this rig around and has been for years. Surely he should be in jail by now, hey?

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Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

Here are the NSW RMS towing regulations.

Rules for towing

Towing more than one trailer at a time is not allowed
Nobody is allowed to ride in trailers or caravans
When towing and driving on a road without street lights, drive at least 60 metres behind heavy vehicles or other vehicles towing trailers,unless overtaking
Learner drivers and learner and provisional motorcycle riders are not allowed to tow
P1 car licence holders can tow small trailers with up to 250 kg of unloaded weight.

And here are the WA regulations

Some laws that you need to know
Vehicles, trailers and caravans must meet registration standards and must be roadworthy.
• All trailers or caravans must have a rear number plate and a registration label holder
fixed to the left side of the body so that the label faces outwards or forwards.
• The coupling and towbar must not obscure the number plate or lights on the rear of
the towing vehicle when no trailer or caravan is attached.
• Regulations prohibit towing more than one trailer at once.
• Nobody is allowed to ride in normally registered trailers or caravans.
• When towing a trailer or caravan the maximum speed at which you may tow is 100
kilometres per hour. You must of course obey the posted speed limits.

The relevant South Australian and Northern Territory websites are not user friendly and appear to only contain minimal information.

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None of my trailers (and I have a few) have a registration label holder or a label. Does that mean it's not registered? I hope not. I've just paid this months registrations. Four of them. An awful waste of money if they're not registered.

We haven't had to display or even been issued with any registration stickers in WA for some time now, That includes my trailers as well.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

We haven't had to display or even been issued with any registration stickers in WA for some time now, That includes my trailers as well.

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Same for Qld for anything under 4.5T IIRC

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Originally Posted by trout1105

We haven't had to display or even been issued with any registration stickers in WA for some time now, That includes my trailers as well.

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So, you are driving on the roads illegally then or is the information on the website wrong?
I seem to remember covering wrong road rules information on websites somewhere before.

Anyways, I emailed a mate who knows this vehicle better than me. He replied with the relevant link to Vicroads.
Oversize light vehicles : VicRoads

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Apart from B-double trucks and road trains, vehicles aren’t allowed to tow more than one trailer without an exemption from VicRoads. To get an exemption you’ll need a report from an approved Vehicle Assessment Signatory Scheme (VASS) engineer.

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Also, I should mention, the VASS is Australia wide.

Also, you will need a MC licence. If you get caught doing this with a car licence you will be charged with driving without a licence.

Worse you’ll be charged for wrong class of licence and the penalty is greater iirc.

I can remember being told about the NO rego stickers on TV and getting notified by mail about it from the licencing department when this was introduced.
So there is nothing illegal about not displaying these stickers in WA, Even the police and fire vehicles don't have them.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

I can remember being told about the NO rego stickers on TV and getting notified by mail about it from the licencing department when this was introduced.
So there is nothing illegal about not displaying these stickers in WA, Even the police and fire vehicles don't have them.

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So, are you saying the information on the website is wrong?

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

So, are you saying the information on the website is wrong?

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https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/medi..._vs_ib_107.pdf

The information on that site was accurate at the time of publication, However the document is old (2002) and the requirements have changed since then.
As for Old Mate with his home grown road train I doubt very much that the legislation pertaining to towing multiple trailers has changed, If it has then I would Love to know the name of the lunatic that would sign off on something like that.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/medi..._vs_ib_107.pdf

The information on that site was accurate at the time of publication, However the document is old (2002) and the requirements have changed since then.
As for Old Mate with his home grown road train I doubt very much that the legislation pertaining to towing multiple trailers has changed, If it has then I would Love to know the name of the lunatic that would sign off on something like that.

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So it's wrong, then.

Not sure about you but, when it come to matters automotive, I'd put more trust in a qualified automotive engineer who is a signatory to the VASS than an office cleaner. They are very well trained and educated people. I wouldn't suggest they were lunatics.
Mind you, feel free to offer advice when I spill my rubbish bin.