Thread: Can the seller be also liable - Duty of Care?

Originally Posted by johntins

I thought political comments were a no no on this site.

The comment wasn't intended as political, Just as an example of something that I personally wouldn't want as another American export to Australia like the stupid Gun laws and trigger happy Coppers that America is also famous for

Originally Posted by Homestar

That shows how crap our State bases laws are and the need for National road rules, etc. legal in his home state but would almost certainly be booked travelling interstate.

Not saying this should be legal by the way, just another area that could cause issues when travelling interstate with what you think is something legal.

Given that Vic roads have historically been most difficult to deal with, I wonder if the VASS report given by a private sector engineer and subsequently Vic roads giving permission to operate an illegal combination in an illegal activity was the end result of a "cross my palm with silver" decision.

Road rules and towing regulations in all states including Victoria clearly prohibit towing more than one trailer. Qld. TMR state that the dept does not have the legislative authority to vary this and the Vic. permission has no force in Qld. RMS head office Sydney gave verbally a similar reply to my telephone enquiry.

Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

Given that Vic roads have historically been most difficult to deal with, I wonder if the VASS report given by a private sector engineer and subsequently Vic roads giving permission to operate an illegal combination in an illegal activity was the end result of a "cross my palm with silver" decision.

Road rules and towing regulations in all states including Victoria clearly prohibit towing more than one trailer. Qld. TMR state that the dept does not have the legislative authority to vary this and the Vic. permission has no force in Qld. RMS head office Sydney gave verbally a similar reply to my telephone enquiry.

There is much evidence that has been posted in this thread that Old Mates rig in Mildura is Not compliant with the Vic roads regulations as to what can and cannot be towed behind a car.
There has most likely been a "cock up" at the Mildura licencing centre when this type of towing system was allowed or Old Mate just decided to do it any way and hasn't been Busted for it yet by the local constabulary .

It wouldn't be the first permit written out, knowing that it wasn't worth the paper it was written on.

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving.... 😂

Absolutely, Homey.

Ian, the fellow in Mildura does not have a permit, never had one, does not need one.
The setup is fully registered, VASS certified and the driver is licenced.

I saw another two trailer setup NT registered (by the plates) and being driven on the road on facebook. Can't save the video.
Saw an interesting one yesterday in SA. A tractor towing a boom sprayer (booms folded) towing a Landcruiser on an A frame. Driving on highway no.1 no less.

Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

Weel, I got a reply from Transport Main roads Qld.

Here it is.

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So it appears Mr. Mildura could be on dangerous ground if he tows his rig in Qld. An illegal vehicle combination can be considered an unregistered and unroadworthy vehicle thus making his insurances void. Qld. TMR reckon the Victorian VASS is not recognised in Qld .as it refers to an illegal vehicle and activity.

I spent a bit of time on the 'phone with RMS and at first the person thought I was joking. Then 'phoned back with a similar opinion to the Qld. one.

So, what I get from your post is my Landrover, which is registered in Victoria and has Victorian engineering approval (before the VAS Scheme) cannot be driven in Queensland.
Suits me fine. Just another reason not to spend my tourist dollar in that state.

In Victoria, we welcome interstaters.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

So, what I get from your post is my Landrover, which is registered in Victoria and has Victorian engineering approval (before the VAS Scheme) cannot be driven in Queensland.
Suits me fine. Just another reason not to spend my tourist dollar in that state.

In Victoria, we welcome interstaters.

Only if the engineering approval is for multiple trailers or something otherwise illegal in Qld.
We have sufficient bogan-built vehicles, without needing to import any :bigrolf: