Mass video surveillance to change Australia

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Yep... and the system statistically works [emoji6]

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statistically yes.
and thats not good enough. cant have a few innocents in jail cause the rest were guilty.

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Originally Posted by Classic88

I have a British license which is accepted for identification purposes. The British government tried to introduce compulsory ID after 9/11 and were told to get ****ed by the populace.

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The UK government did go ahead with the ID card just limited those it would apply to. It is building slowly but certainly growing with more categories of those who must have it or where you must have it to access government being added as the opportunity opens up

Whole compulsory ID database thing was doomed from the start. Government correctly figured out that the drivers licence, passport, council tax and voters roll records were loaded with dead and non existent people and asked 'experts' (the usual crowd here) what the solution was. They came back with set up a new data base as it will be too expensive to fix what you have. So they set up a new data base for called the ID card. Now so that you do not end up with the same mess as the existing data bases how do you identify the people going into the new data base? Simple really you ask them to provide drivers licence, passport, council tax, voters roll ID. Now has anyone else been able to figure out where this is going to end up.....

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Originally Posted by Eevo

statistically yes.
and thats not good enough. cant have a few innocents in jail cause the rest were guilty.

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Australia is at War with Drugs and Terrorism and as with All wars here always has been and always will be "collateral damage".
What is the alterative, Give up and let these scum/vermin in our society win?
Or maybe form a committee to discuss this over the next decade or so?

Facial recognition has been around for Millennia It's called the Human Eye, What is so awful about using electronics to do the same job?

The so-called 'wars' on drugs and terrorism are poor excuses for giving up our personal freedom, I think. People died for those freedoms. We don't want to end up like Cambodia, Myanmar or Turkmanistan.
Governments always want more power and control. They always try to justify their grabs for more power by claiming we need protection from external threats. They always say if we are innocent we have nothing to fear.
Actually, often it is power-hungry people in those governments which are the biggest threats to us. .

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Interesting program, Bob.
So, London are now experiencing what we in Melbourne have experienced for years.
In Melbourne, we had the Italians and Greeks.It was so long ago I can't remember the areas they flocked to. Footscray was one such area. I can't remember whether it was Italian or Greek. They all left when the Vietnamese moved in. Springvale is another Vietnamese community as is Box Hill. Brighton, Jewish. They tried to rope off their community and impose their own law quite some years ago. The state government said no. Victorian law is for all Victorians. The inner northern suburbs were Greek or Italian, I can't remember which. People of Greek and/or Italian heritage are all over Melbourne now. The English seem to flock to the outer east of Melbourne. The wetter part of Melbourne. The Arabs (mainly Lebanese) seem to congregate in the outer northern burbs like Roxburgh Park.
Interestingly, these are not "No Go Zones".

I didn't see Blackburn as a "No Go Zone" from that news investigation. I just see it as a community much like many ares in Melbourne.

Now, If I had seen violence, much like the violence we see from the Sudanese youth here in Victoria, I would be worried.

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Years ago when I was in the truck and machinery trade I used to do a bit of business with a used machinery dealer in Collingwood. Our paths didn't cross for a few years until we met at an auction in New England. I asked him how were all his Greek neighbours. He replied "No Greeks left in Collingwood, mate. The Vietnamese started moving in and the Greeks moved out to their waterfront villas or their vineyards up the Yarra Valley. Only us poor white trash had to stay behind."

Must introduce cameras and facial recognition to protect us from terrorism.

Must allow full-face covering for a certain religion so that we don't offend anyone.

Seems legit....

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Originally Posted by VladTepes

Must introduce cameras and facial recognition to protect us from terrorism.

Must allow full-face covering for a certain religion so that we don't offend anyone.

Seems legit....

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Yep! we’re **** weak in that regard...
The letterbox isn’t a religious requirement, only the head scarf is...

As I am so butt ugly the missus would probably like it if I wore a Burka in public, Maybe that is why these are worn by some women [bigwhistle][bigrolf]

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Interesting program, Bob.
So, London are now experiencing what we in Melbourne have experienced for years.
In Melbourne, we had the Italians and Greeks.It was so long ago I can't remember the areas they flocked to. Footscray was one such area. I can't remember whether it was Italian or Greek. They all left when the Vietnamese moved in. Springvale is another Vietnamese community as is Box Hill. Brighton, Jewish. They tried to rope off their community and impose their own law quite some years ago. The state government said no. Victorian law is for all Victorians. The inner northern suburbs were Greek or Italian, I can't remember which. People of Greek and/or Italian heritage are all over Melbourne now. The English seem to flock to the outer east of Melbourne. The wetter part of Melbourne. The Arabs (mainly Lebanese) seem to congregate in the outer northern burbs like Roxburgh Park.
Interestingly, these are not "No Go Zones".

I didn't see Blackburn as a "No Go Zone" from that news investigation. I just see it as a community much like many ares in Melbourne.

Now, If I had seen violence, much like the violence we see from the Sudanese youth here in Victoria, I would be worried.

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Considering my reply has disappeared into the ether, may I recommend this program.

Sunshine: SBS knocks it out of the park with new drama

I personally chalk this one up as a win for the Terrorist. Whether you think it's a good thing or a bad thing, the fact is you are losing some freedom and privacy.
IMHO the best way to defeat Terrorism is not to react in any way that could encourage them.
The system is also wide open to abuse.
It's a pity they didn't come up with a system to stop people being struck by lightening.