Thread: Mass video surveillance to change Australia

I suppose that with that line of thought you people would think that the best way to react to car thieves is to leave the keys in the ignition of your prised Landrover

Originally Posted by trout1105

I suppose that with that line of thought you people would think that the best way to react to car thieves is to leave the keys in the ignition of your prised Landrover

Close! But the imposition of fines should you fail to secure your vehicle when you leave it parked, or are more than 3m from the vehicle while keys are in the ignition - that’s a real and better example of notional lost freedoms.

Just remember that the more information the Government has over you the more power they have over you. Power corrupts.
Even before there was a terrorist threat the Government were calling for ID cards, access to internet user dater, more surveillance,,etc etc.
Be mindful, that while you are soiling your undies about the Terrorist threat, other threats that are likely to be more harmful are being ignored.
Ask yourself: How likely would I have been to stand up and openly criticise the Government 20 years ago, as opposed to now, and how likely would I be, once the Government has all of these systems in place?
It may well be that the Parliament has the very best intentions and that they would never use that power against you.
After all we haven't seen any evidence of political corruption yet, have we?
Then there is the second tier of Government: Centrelink, Boarder Force, Police, ASIO, DOTARS or what ever they're called these days, (They're always changing their names, aren't they?). All if them have the ability to single out an individual and render him feckless. Of course they have never done that, have they? They never would would they?

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

I personally chalk this one up as a win for the Terrorist. Whether you think it's a good thing or a bad thing, the fact is you are losing some freedom and privacy.
IMHO the best way to defeat Terrorism is not to react in any way that could encourage them.
The system is also wide open to abuse.
It's a pity they didn't come up with a system to stop people being struck by lightening.

And stop calling them terrorists because 'one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter'. It glamorises what they have done and inspires others. Just call them what they are - ****ing murdering scum.

Not to mention the hackers that will steal all this data when the government has it assembled. And it will happen - it has already happened to the US Department of Homeland Security, not to mention the US Defence Department, not to mention Australian Defence contractors etc. Anyone who thinks that this data will not be misused and will not be stolen is living in a fantasy world.

Not to mention also that it is intended to give the information to Private Security Firms, whom we all know are beyond reproach.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Not to mention the hackers that will steal all this data when the government has it assembled. And it will happen - it has already happened to the US Department of Homeland Security, not to mention the US Defence Department, not to mention Australian Defence contractors etc. Anyone who thinks that this data will not be misused and will not be stolen is living in a fantasy world.

How can the data from CCTV cameras be at all useful to a hacker?
CCTV cameras is what we are talking about here, Not everyone getting a chip implanted in their neck

Originally Posted by trout1105

How can the data from CCTV cameras be at all useful to a hacker?
CCTV cameras is what we are talking about here, Not everyone getting a chip implanted in their neck

Cameras are not just cameras anymore you know. Raw footage is almost useless in bulk but what is valuable is sophisticated analysis of the data. Once the footage has been crunched and ordered it's worth nicking.