People going thru your recycle bin

**trout1105** · 23rd October 2017, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by gusthedog

That's because Councils generally don't make money from recycling due to the fact that sorting costs so much money. This is because people put things in recycling bins that can't be recycled. I've seen people put VCRs, waxed boxes, food scraps, dog crap etc etc into recycling bins.

Or people put recycling into plastic bags. FYI anything in a plastic bag put in a recycling bin goes into landfill. It costs too much to open them to check.

All that has to be hand sorted before it goes into the automatic system which can't deal with it.

So theoretically then when someone removes stuff from the recycling bin there is less that has to be sorted, Thus saving the council money due to the cost of sorting it

**gusthedog** · 23rd October 2017, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by trout1105

So theoretically then when someone removes stuff from the recycling bin there is less that has to be sorted, Thus saving the council money due to the cost of sorting it

Well not really. People are taking jars etc in general or milk containers or cans in those areas lucky enough to get paid for them. They all can be sorted by an auto sorter. It's the plastic bags full of rubbish, organic stuff and electrical appliances that are the biggest pain as the auto sorters can't deal with them.

People using stuff from a recycle bin may take out the energy consumption associated with the recycling process itself which is very energy intense. That's the big benefit. Although with cans for example, it doesn't take much energy to melt them down.

So it's really a win win to let people take stuff from your recycle bin. Except for Council but everyone hates their Council so that shouldn't be an issue

**AndyG** · 24th October 2017, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares

Ean are you also missing pieces off your garden hose? Bottles , cans and hose bits make Bongs on the run .LOL

How come you know that

**PhilipA** · 24th October 2017, 12:50 PM

It's a big issue with cleanup days as well.
I read an article about New York where the contractor had quoted on the assumption of a certain mix of scrap metal etc that can be sold to offset costs but that the scavengers had taken anything of value , leaving a revenue hole for the contractor, the council, and then the residents who then have to pay more for the service.
I noted with mirth in that show about Mt Druitt that the father of the drug addict used to do the same to get some money when he was broke, often due to the son stealing his money or selling everything in the yard not bolted down to buy drugs.
Regards Philip A

Ean Austral · 24th October 2017, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by gusthedog

Why is your missus upset that people go through your bin? If people are making use of your rubbish and are saving it from the tip, we should be encouraging it. Once it’s in the bin, surely that means you don’t want it anymore? I honestly don’t see the issue and actually think its a good idea.

If you are silly enough to put unshredded personal papers into the recycling, that’s your issue I reckon. If anyone wants to go through my bin I’m putting it out tonight

I guess it comes down to people going thru your things before they are even taken away from your property. Sure you are putting it out to be removed but her view is its still in the bin which is our property. If someone steals our bin ( even tho they are council bins ) we have to replace it at our cost , so its our bin in a technical sense.

I can see her point of view , I can also see they point that if you have put it in the bin then you no longer want it.

They don't get much out of our bin as we have a separate bin for the cans and bottles that the Down Syndrome people drop off and collect, so they get the $$ for their trouble.

We also have another bin at work from a company that employ's disabled people and they do document shredding so all our personal stuff goes thru that service.

I was more just curious if others had noticed it elsewhere in the country.

Cheers Ean

Ean Austral · 24th October 2017, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares

Ean are you also missing pieces off your garden hose? Bottles , cans and hose bits make Bongs on the run .LOL

I could deal with that Mario , as it would be the dope heads , sadly we are way past that up here, they stab you and then rob you to buy some more ICE. usually they only get your phone or shoe's as people don't carry cash much any more , but they seem happy to kill someone for that as it must be enough to get another hit.

Cheers Ean

**cuppabillytea** · 24th October 2017, 05:59 PM

On our throw out days, everything goes in the compactor, so I'm happy to see someone make use of our junk.

**1950landy** · 25th October 2017, 09:54 AM

Isn't Darwin like SA were you can take bottles & can to a buy back center & get cash back .

**bee utey** · 25th October 2017, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by 1950landy

Isn't Darwin like SA were you can take bottles & can to a buy back center & get cash back .

Yebbut, it takes $1 of fuel for every 50 cents you get back unless you're literally passing the gate of the recycle centre.

**drivesafe** · 25th October 2017, 11:32 AM

I can’t speak for any other state, but in NSW, it is an act of theft to take anything from a garbage or recycling bin.

I’ll try to keep this short.

I use to live in a regional city council area in NSW, and I and many of my neighbours were fighting a corrupt council over an adjoining land development.

But we were only one of a VERY large number of neighbourhood groups fighting similar corrupt council operations.

There were so many different groups that the groups set up council wide monthly meetings.

Late one night I was having a shower when my wife came and told me council workers were emptying our rubbish and recycling bins into big bags.

Where we lived, a contractor, not the council, collects the rubbish, but by the time I got dressed, they had gone.

I drove around but could not find them.

At the next monthly area meeting, there was a police officer addressing the meeting about road changes, but some one told him how their garbage had been taken by the council and was this legal.

Then just about every third person at the meeting stated that they too, had had their rubbish collected by council.

There was a council representative at each area meet and he was asked what was going on.

The police officer could not give an answer at the time but said he would follow it up.

At the next month’s area meeting the council rep told us the council was carrying out RANDOM checks of bins to see how people were using their recycling bins. It was amazing that the only people who had their bins RANDOMLY check, were people fight council.

It took 3 months for the police officer to get back to us. He explained that they could not come up with an answer at the area command so the question was sent to the states legal department.

Their answer was that the council had no legal right to touch the bins and that the contents of the bins remained the property of the householder until the contractor collected it.

It was a case of the council trying to get anything they could use against people fighting council, and to this day I burn all discarded documents. Nothing goes in the bin.

BTW, about 2 years after all of this, the state government sacked the entire council.

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