Thread: Climbing Uluru to be banned from 2019

Originally Posted by Tombie

Never climbed it. Never intended to..
Climb plenty of rocks at work!

Interestingly I worked with an Aboriginal Mining company, I’m mates with a couple of the local elders....

And they aren’t racist in the slightest, in fact far from it..
And having learned the history of the local region they would have every right to carry a huge chip on their shoulders.

You know what though - they aren’t - they share the belief that the history is for everyone, and that we should learn it all as it’s for them and all the “new arrivals” (my term for approx 200 years)...

All they ask is that we respect areas of significance, I’ve been taken to see such places and they are worthy of respect.

The ones that corrupt the traditional beliefs for their gain are the primary cause of the racial divide... these Elders are a far more down to earth and respectful mob. And seek awareness of their history, respect for it, and believe in opportunity where possible for locals.

The company has a mix of “White” and “Black” and all get along; look at the man, not the skin colour.


With the ‘Rock’ - if it’s now recognised as Tribal land then they own it - and have the right to say who does what - just like the land I own. Come to my place, obey my rules or **** off!

Spot on, brother.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

For anyone that is interested, here is a link that I've just found on the net re Grahame Walsh, it's amazing what you can find.
There would not be many, particularly a non Aboriginal, who dedicated more of their life to Aboriginal culture and its preservation, for no personal gain,than Grahame.
There's heaps more on there about him, and his work.
Nocookies | The Australian
Pickles.

Thanks for that, Pickles

Originally Posted by Pickles2

Hello Bob, Glad you did the research on one of my very good school friends, Grahame Walsh. It was actually The Bradshaws, not Bradburys, but I know what you are referring to.
Yes Grahame had several financial backers, and He needed them, and they wouldn't have backed him without good reason. Dame Edith Murdoch loved Grahame, knew him very well, bought him several Land Cruisers which He needed for his research, and He certainly needed good vehicles when He was as you say "doing the hard work",...when He sometimes would spend over six months on his own, in very remote lcations, doing his research, and supporting himself, and yes, whether you recognize it or not, conversing & relating to the local Aboriginal people. His work is HUGE,..literally thousands & thousands of images, and of course before digital, all on film.
You mention The Bradshaws. Another of Grahhame's ways of financing his research was to lead Safaris for people interested in Aboriginal Culture/Rock Art etc. Well on one occasion, one of his passengers was Maria Myers, wife of well known Melbourne based Q.C. Alan Myers,...well He took her to visit the Bradshaws which at the time were in danger, because the future of the property was uncertain,...so she bought the property.
Grahame was passionate about his work, The Aboriginal people & all things relative. He made no money out of it, his work simply paid for his research. It was not done for money.
Funnily enough his other passions were American Muscle Cars of the GM variety, and collecting WW11 Souveniers,..He had the biggest collection I've ever seen including some 3rd Reich items. He was also a world renowned authority on Japanese Samurai Swords,..He was a man of many talents.
Grahame Walsh 20/9/44 - 18/8/07
Pickles

Got me there Pickles. Just tell me what good he did for the people he earned his reputation from.

Order a fake one from China, they already have the prototype:




Plonk it down next to Lake Burley Griffin, gives the ruddy tourists to that place something new to climb on, tell 'em it's the real one, they'll never know.

The old one can go back to being a perching place for blowies and wedgies.

Isn't it just that a group of our fellow human beings has - peacefully and respectfully - asked others to respect their beliefs (which themselves are respectful and peaceful).

I, and others, may not share those beliefs but the 'cost' or 'loss' is realistically negligible to us whereas the gains to them (again, our fellow human beings), at least spirituality, are significant.

Rock fishing for carp , I'm up for it !

Originally Posted by Classic88

Isn't it just that a group of our fellow human beings has - peacefully and respectfully - asked others to respect their beliefs (which themselves are respectful and peaceful).

I, and others, may not share those beliefs but the 'cost' or 'loss' is realistically negligible to us whereas the gains to them (again, our fellow human beings), at least spirituality, are significant.

I think I understand how, after the battle of the little big horn, the majority of the Sioux nation moved north, to Canada, where they knew they would be treated fairly, Canadians are alright, eh.

Originally Posted by bob10

Originally Posted by Classic88

Isn't it just that a group of our fellow human beings has - peacefully and respectfully - asked others to respect their beliefs (which themselves are respectful and peaceful).

I, and others, may not share those beliefs but the 'cost' or 'loss' is realistically negligible to us whereas the gains to them (again, our fellow human beings), at least spirituality, are significant.

I think I understand how, after the battle of the little big horn, the majority of the Sioux nation moved north, to Canada, where they knew they would be treated fairly, Canadians are alright, eh.

You have met me , am I alright ? Lots of nastiness has happened there as well , look at the siege near Montreal when a council wanted to put a golf course over a native cemetery as an example