And the American president trots out the same old tired speech. I'ts happening that regularly over there that he hasn't got time to write new speeches.[bigwhistle] Again the people suffer.:rocket:
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And the American president trots out the same old tired speech. I'ts happening that regularly over there that he hasn't got time to write new speeches.[bigwhistle] Again the people suffer.:rocket:
Seems this has been accepted that this sort of thing is part of their right to "be Free " . The guns are just part of overall thought that this makes individual's independent of government. Which is funny in a way. Speed limits/road rules etc are accepted as being in best interest of all and for compromise of living in a communal society. But guns they seem to be the ultimate definition of an individual right taking precedence over communities right to safety. Just spent a month with young Texan Engineer. Working here in Oz. She watched Las Vegas shootings etc. Not once did thought that maybe, just maybe something in America is out of whack. She went home- to go shooting. I reckon a lost cause
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Originally Posted by Meccles
no, they see it slightly different.
driving a car, it gets you to work faster, etc. but occasionally people crash and die. its an acceptable risk
everyone having a gun, it allows you to be free, etc. but occasionally people go nuts and people die. its an acceptable risk.
You've hit the nail on the head Eevo, best explanation of the situation I've heard. It also explains why there is no hysteria over the road toll in a country where fatal road accidents are reported in terms of how long they are delaying the commute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
Regards,
Tote
Glib remarks seem even more so, when the human cost is taken into account.
Texas shooting: Death sweeps across 3 generations of a single family gathered at church
Just goes to show how little the average American values a human life that isn't their own or of their immediate family.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob10
I would disagree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by bee utey
Don't care where it is, human life is human life.
Pickles.
That may be true. But if it came to a choice between my family and yours... (well you can see where this is going)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pickles2
If the majority of Americans consider that these mass shootings are an acceptable risk to ensure their what many perceive as their God Given right to bear arms then this sort of thing will continue to happen.
I would presume that IF eventually enough people are directly affected by this form of violence then public perception towards gun ownership in the US will eventually change enough to change the currant ease/laws of obtaining military style firearms so that this will be prevented or at least become a rare event instead of quite a common occurrence as it is now.
Yeah, well that's a "natural" feeling isn't it, for sure we'd rather other families than our own, but I reckon, despite "gun laws" whatever they are, what I'm saying is that the feelings/emotions etc of U.S. families would be no different to any families anywhere when it comes to horrendous events like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
Any luck on the "spare parts"?!
Pickles.