are police ignoring guidelines for speed cameras?

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Originally Posted by AK83

yet it's ok for everyone to break the law and speed.

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where did it say that?

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Originally Posted by AK83

But the law is the law ... break it, get pinged .. cop it on the chin ... move on with your life.

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the police need to prove that law was broken. not that their poorly setup detector went off.

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Originally Posted by AK83

And really who gives a carp if other countries have 130k/h or faster speed limits ..

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sour grapes?

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Originally Posted by johntins

Err, it's called lights and sirens, and I used to see it every day. ( Bear in mind, I haven't seen the vid in question, but, I suspect ,neither have you




Police MUST follow the "guidelines", or their prosecutions will fail upon challenge, and that is how it should be, unless you are happy to be penalised for something that you didn't do. I am not. Police ignoring guidelines means that the accuracy of their speed testing devices can be questioned. There is no double standard.

No rage, you'll notice.

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Agree 1000%,.....that speed detection MUST be used in terms of user instructions/legality etc, because if they're NOT, it may be a case of "Do the crime, do the time", being unfairly enforced.
A retired friend of mine, who is very persistant, very conscious of his rights, challenged a speed camera reading, over the legality & accuracy of the reading, including several of the issues raised in that article.
He had no legal representative, represented himself, utilising some of the stuff in this article, and, after two years, the infringement was dropped, because the Police were lacking in several compliance issues, placement etc etc. Was it worth the trouble?,....to him it was,....He is like a dog with a bone on issues like this. Me?.. i don't think I could stand it over two years, but it DOES highlight that the subject title of this thread is obviously correct in some instances,......IF you have the tenacity, knowledge & determination to prove it!
Pickles.

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Originally Posted by Pickles2

. Was it worth the trouble?,....to him it was,....He is like a dog with a bone on issues like this. Me?.. i don't think I could stand it over two years, but it DOES highlight that the subject title of this thread is obviously correct in some instances,......IF you have the tenacity, knowledge & determination to prove it!
Pickles.

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Had a mate driving a speed limited(100) b-double on a flat piece of road, and as law abiding truckies on here will know, he couldn't really have been doing much more than that on a flat road....mobile radar (car full of cops on a mobile radar training course) pulled him over and booked him for 125kph. He stated that was ridiculous, fined anyway. Went straight to an agent for that truck engine manufacturer and had it downloaded, download said that the truck had done no more than 102kph that day. Sapol insisted on taking it to court. He fought it, he won. two day trial and $10k in costs, some of which he won back. Definitely out of pocket compared to the original fine. As I said to him, well done, you have more tenacity than me...I would have paid it and griped that I had been done an injustice, rather than go through all of that. But it goes to show...speed detection, especially mobile radar is not 100% and open to human operator error.

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Originally Posted by Gordie

and open to human operator error.

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bingo. i've contest 3 speeding fines, gone to magistrates court and all 3 times the fine was dismissed as police/human error.