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What's the water myth??Quote:
Originally posted by LoadedDisco
I’m not sure but I think they did use a .50 cal. And if it is they used the same rifle on the myth of how far in a bullet will travel if shot in to the water.
Must admit, I've never stopped to remove the tracer rounds except twhen there had been a fire risk.. and then firing at petrol drums was not smart!
Can i ask why trav? I am not getting involved in this debate it is worse than the my beer is better than yours debate but i would be interested to know why it would **** you off road. I love mine off road. In low range turbo lag is non existent and they pull like a train up steep hills in first low. What is it that ****s you about the diesels? mattQuote:
Originally posted by aquarangie
For the 4wd work I do which involves lots of hard, steep and diff-lock type hills with plenty of 'surprises' thrown in for good measure, the V8 engine is suitable for my needs. Plenty of torque from idle and quick response.
The tdi/td5 would give me the Sh*t off-road IMO. Plus you can't bet that melody from the exhaust, the fuel costs are well worth it.
Trav
Can i ask why trav? I am not getting involved in this debate it is worse than the my beer is better than yours debate but i would be interested to know why it would sh*t you off road. I love mine off road. In low range turbo lag is non existent and they pull like a train up steep hills in first low. What is it that Sh*t you about the diesels? matt[/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by Ace+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ace)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-aquarangie
For the 4wd work I do which involves lots of hard, steep and diff-lock type hills with plenty of 'surprises' thrown in for good measure, the V8 engine is suitable for my needs. Plenty of torque from idle and quick response.
The tdi/td5 would give me the Sh*t off-road IMO. Plus you can't bet that melody from the exhaust, the fuel costs are well worth it.
Trav
I remember when I was looking for Aquarangie, I looked at a tdi Disco and took it for a run. It was gutless, noisy and the damn thing sounded like a tractor. Maybe I looked at a bad example, but off-putting enough for me.
I also know my way around a petrol better than a diesel, plus the cost of parts when I looked into it was exxy.
When I was younger my old man had a MQ Patrol Diesel, great vehicle and it never broke down, but I have horrid memories on holidays away the smell on long drives would make me crook and I would spew at least once. Nothing much had changed now, I get headaches from diesel fumes (probably why I prefer to lead trips than be a participant https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ )
That's my reason. I'll die a V8 man, even if I go broke running one https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Trav
Each to his own I guess.
My tdi is certainly no rocketship at fast highway speeds, but then if I'd wanted a sports car I'd have bought one.
At slow off road speeds the auto gearing and low range mean it just idles over pretty much everything and has good downhill engine braking.
It has a snorkel and I rather like the echo up the snorkel.
I don't notice any diesel fumes. Maybe the ones you smelt with that problem were running rich?
The V8s sound nice, but I don't need the extra power. And I'm very happy averaging 10l/100km.
Might you, an intercooler, extractors and better exhaust are on the wish list, but thats for low down pulling power with the camper up hills, not top speed.
Driving my old girl 'normally' I get about 16 -17 lt per hundred km but when the urge to play comes around anywhere up to about 35lt per hundred. BUT no-one can keep up with me so I dont care about fuel cost during play.
Just a point to ponder ifV8 discos are so cheap now why are the engines still expensive to buy??
Blythe
I've just got a 02 disco td5,test drove the td5 then the v8 straight after and didnt really notice that much of a differance in performance.Didnt get to drive them up hills etc.The td5 dosnt smell or have huge amounts of smoke out the back either.For the amount of extra fuel the v8 uses compared to the performance gain over the deisel i didnt think it was worth it for the long distance driving i will be doing.
I have owned a 94 V8(a few older rangies) and now the 02 TD5. For my money the V8 was an all round better package.
I experienced that for around town shopping (stop start) the diesel pays dividends.
For the bulk of my time the V8 was the better option when the things are expected to pull my van and carry all the go away schtuff, and cruise on a reasonable pace100-120, contending with head winds, hills, semis, and moblie roadbloacks (NISSOTAS towing vans). The V8's I have owned have not used a great deal more than the TD5 doing the same trips, in fact at current prices the extra cost my V8's would consume could almost be negligable.
The TD5 is a damn fine engine but I found the V8 is a better engine. relaxed, reliable, blokey, Mind you my wife even preferred squeezing the throttle of the V8 and having a sexy growl burble out. After having the V8's for a long time the Diesels just never sound healthy. In fact I cant drive the thing with the windows down,,, it starts to affect me a bit like the neighbours dog that just wont shut up 8O . (thank god the landys do have great aircons)
For me the current trend couldnt be better, when I head down south next year I should get a good price for the TD5, and pick up a bargain V8 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Well I totally agree My 99 4.0 rangie get 16-17L/100km Daily driving and 13-15L/100km highway giving my around 650km to a tank (100L).Quote:
Originally posted by DiscoMick
I think v8 Landys get a bad rap re fuel economy when you look up the sorts of fuel consumption of V8 Cruisers and Patrols, which are certainly at least comparable with the Landy V8.
But I'll still keep my tdi thanks10-11l/100 km whether towing or not. 8)
My uncle has just bought a brand new 4.8 6cyl patrol and he gets about 23-25L/100km daily driving.
So that said for a 2.5 tonne 4wd my rangie perform pretty well and its standard https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Fuel economy is when the needle is on the E mark and the low fuel light is on, time to fill up. I've never kept score of my fuel usage, I'm enjoying my Rangie to give a stuff about it https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Trav
these conversations, discussions, arguments etc. are getting pretty tired, from my POV; V8s in anything suck juice....
buy any big 4wd and budget for 20l per hundred...
can't afford it???
buy a little kia thingy
want the big flash 4wd?
it comes at a price...they all suck bucket loads of juice, just get one that does what you want and doesn't fail........
having had 2 V8 Disco 1s I'm not complaining
think I'll go out now and fire it up just to hear that grunt and maybe wake up the neighboursssssssss,, hey they went to bed when 'big dog' appeared....
now, there's a very old 351 ci windsor in the garage, but it doesn't sound as loud as my original Kwaka 9.....(then there's the Merc, outboards really suck!!!)
fuel is cheap (ish)
ta ta GQ (I'm now in the shed).