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    My rule is the "rule of three"...if two will do the job add another just in case.
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    I personally don't think the knots have to be fancy either. I have never lost a load using half hitches, and, as a previous post mentioned, checking on the load after a short distance of travel.

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    There has been talk for a while of using ropes to secure loads being outlawed and the use of ratchet straps as the choice tie down
    method. To a degree I can understand, as there are some pretty ordinary ropes available at cheap prices, so people using good quality
    Manila ropes etc. is not likely to happen. Then their is the fact of being able to tie a decent knot. So like most things, these anticipated
    regulations are based on the lowest common denominator.
    However if the so called lowest common denominator can't tie a knot, I doubt they will ever master using a ratchet strap.

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    What do you mean mick......




    It ain't that hard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bytemrk View Post
    What do you mean mick......




    It ain't that hard
    Mark,
    The sad thing is this is probably true.

    Cheers, Mick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mick88 View Post
    There has been talk for a while of using ropes to secure loads being outlawed and the use of ratchet straps as the choice tie down
    method. To a degree I can understand, as there are some pretty ordinary ropes available at cheap prices, so people using good quality
    Manila ropes etc. is not likely to happen. Then their is the fact of being able to tie a decent knot. So like most things, these anticipated
    regulations are based on the lowest common denominator.
    However if the so called lowest common denominator can't tie a knot, I doubt they will ever master using a ratchet strap.

    Cheers, Mick.
    I am fortunate enough to be able to tie knots thanks to Cub`s and Scout`s and also some truck driving and load restraint experience

    Funny after 19 years in one job and taking a hand shake i was in the market for another job and part of this process was a week long course on would you believe driver operation`s

    So part of this course included load restraint and as i had previous knowledge i was assigned some trainees along with the instructor who was all of about 27 and had done everything .

    So here i am at one end of the truck the instructor the other end and im teaching the clove hitch my version of the truck knot and so forth .

    One of these trainees comes from the instructor to where i am and is watching me very closely and pipes up and says that is a far better and quicker way than the way the instructor is teaching them

    So in short i ended up teaching the instructor how to tie knot`s

    I still prefer to tie a load down with ropes than rachet straps on my 6x4 or roof rack and have never lost anything due to a rope going loose .

    I have used rachet and they can slip and come loose as much as ropes .

    I also find with a rachet strap people tend to over tighten their load and this can cause the object being secured to crush and the strap can slip as they concentrate on the rachet when using a rope one tends to watch the rope in case of slippage .

    It works for me and i have been more than happy to educate any one on rope tying techniques in the past or future.

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    We've been selling a heap of furniture over the last two weeks, so have had plenty of 'interesting' experiences of peoples' methods of fitting furniture into/onto cars/trailers.

    Two from today.

    The first, an old bloke turns up with a neat-as-you-could-imagine lightweight box trailer. He made it himself 30+ years ago and it looked as spic and span as new. He has a way of parking it in his garage up on car ramps, then tipping it vertically so it fits inside. Anyway, he loads up, and pulls out some three strand rope with a neatly woven loop in the end that he flips onto a hook on the side of the trailer then, (I thought I was fast at tying truckies knots) before I could blink he'd tied a series of truckies knots to lash the load on. I wish I'd take a photo it looked so neat.

    The second, a young bloke from the bush with a dual cab ute. Had to take the back tailgate off to fit a couch on. He had 30m plus of old, old kern mantle rope with the kern missing (and therefore it was stretchy), that had multiple knots tied in it that he hadn't been able to undo. He admitted he had no idea how to tie knots and now needed to lash down the couch, the tailgate, a trolley, a concrete bathtub and an assortment of loose junk he had sliding round in the back. I tied it all on. He did eventually dig up a tangle elastic net thing to wrap over the entire load. Good news, he did arrive at his destination with the load intact.

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