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My dad went from this RR to a County, and while we appreciated many of the County's virtues, and had some big adventures in it, it didnt stay in the family for too many years. If they made the right upgrades it would have been really good.https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...018/01/169.jpg
What if you could buy a new rrc with a 200 kw , 15lt per100 petrol v8 , for $50 k.
I’d be in.
Velar is a sign of things to come for Road Rover.
If i recall correctly, the Road Rover, the prototype, was two wheel drive. It was the start, before the first Range Rover prototype.
I am not sure about the suspension of the Road Rover, but my impression is that the RRC rear suspension is a rejigged version of the Rover 3500 rear suspension (which may not have been a 3500 at that point, maybe a Rover 2500?).
The V8 was bought from Buick for the Range Rover, and then used in other British Leyland vehicles, including eventually the Rover 3500, Stag, TR8, MG8, and others.
I think the most unusual thing about the V8 is not actually it being made of alloy, or a small capacity for a V8, but how large the bore and how short the stroke is. Its more like a racing motor designed for high revs and high power. Its a nice motor, and the short stroke made it smoother and more luxurious, but it hurts low rev power, and thats desirable stuff in a heavier vehicle that goes off road.
More nostalgia ..........https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c99643ba64.jpg
Not the Stag. Triumph made their own 3 litre OHC V8 by welding two Dolomite engines together. A telling example of the things wrong with the British motor industry at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by rammypluge
I've spent nearly that (well closer to half that[emoji6]) on this one, don't plan on doing it again [emoji4].Quote:
Originally Posted by fitzy
Plus you can keep petrol v8, i will keep my 4bd1t [emoji6]
The "Road Rover" was a name given to several different prototype vehicles built over a number of years by Rover to explore the possibility of producing something to compete with station wagons being built by competitors - Rover had no cars suitable for building station wagon versions, and wanted to have something less agricultural than the Landrover wagons. Ultimately the project was abandoned, and the Rangerover project progressed instead, although this was aimed at an entirely new market - with the market surveys essential today before any new product is launched, it would never have even been considered, as the market did not exist before the product!Quote:
Originally Posted by rammypluge
The Rover 2000, the original version of the Rover 3500, had a rear suspension that bears no real resemblance to the RRC suspension. It is a modified De Dion system with sideways location by the double U-jointed drive shafts and a dead axle with a sliding joint. plus trailing arms. The differential is mounted on the body. As far as I am aware, the RRC rear suspension was designed from scratch, although it obviously used what was basically the Landrover axle (going back to the 1930s), and the Boge strut was bought in from Germany.
...and by following the market instead of leading, now all Land Rover models are becoming primarily Road Rovers.
and theres TWO very good reasons for that! [bigrolf]Quote:
Originally Posted by Meccles
It's pretty simple from a marketing perspective, at a guess....Quote:
Originally Posted by scarry
RR brand conveys a sense of upward mobility and caters to the owners innate sense of adventure (having a soy latte at Perisher) Target Market - A young professional who would like to emulate what the senior partner drives.
Discovery Sport conveys the same sense of adventure and allows its owner to consider that they have a best of breed machine that would allow them to venture into the wilderness and return safely to brag to their work comrades on Monday morning. Target market - Young family with kids who want a "proper 4wd to do the weekend adventuring that they dream of even if the reality is driving from Penrith to Blayney to visit the in laws.
Discovery 5 - The family has grown a little and now can afford that "Proper" 4wd and actually take the kids on holidays - Target market - Those who can afford a $80K 4wd and don't want a Toyota or a Ranger ( note large hole in LR Model lineup, No dual cab ute when everyone is buying one)
RR Sport - I'm now the Junior partner and I need a vehicle that carries enough prestige. Target Market - The evoque buyer that's done well and wants to show it off.
Full Size RR - I'm Now the senior partner. Target market - Those who can get the family trust to buy their car
Velar - I'm confused, dont know this fits into the strategy or is it just because its easy to add another model by badge engineering a Jag?
You will note that none of the above attributes are likely to interest members of this forum, any capability for a particular model to meet our needs is coincidental at best. Doesn't mean that they are not good vehicles, just that we are not the target demographic. Looking at the lineup it would seem that in Australia at least the lack of representation in the fastest growing market segment i.e. Hilux, Ranger, Amarok would be a strategic misstep. This should tell you where the next Defender will be aimed - straight at the luxury dual cab market.
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