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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    I thought that was exactly my point. I'm glad you agree. How did you get " people" out of problem?
    The 'problem' is usually rhetoric.

    A royal commission would most likely be another waste of money in a similar vein.

    It seems we agree the problem is with the poor allocation of resources mostly by non-Aboriginal people. Therefore it's not an 'Aboriginal problem'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeros View Post
    The 'problem' is usually rhetoric.

    A royal commission would most likely be another waste of money in a similar vein.

    It seems we agree the problem is with the poor allocation of resources mostly by non-Aboriginal people. Therefore it's not an 'Aboriginal problem'.
    A play on words. Semantics. If not aboriginal, whose problem is it?
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    A play on words. Semantics. If not aboriginal, whose problem is it?
    Its all of our problem man. Direct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeros View Post
    Its all of our problem man. Direct.
    To a certain degree YES it is ALL of our problem But until the Aboriginal community starts to take Full responsibility and take charge for their own lives instead of relying on government/private sector handouts and blaming everyone else for their problems then Nothing will change.
    Another problem is all the "Leaches" that are bleeding the system for their Own personal gains/agendas need to be Culled from the system A.S.A.P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    To a certain degree YES it is ALL of our problem But until the Aboriginal community starts to take Full responsibility and take charge for their own lives instead of relying on government/private sector handouts and blaming everyone else for their problems then Nothing will change.
    Another problem is all the "Leaches" that are bleeding the system for their Own personal gains/agendas need to be Culled from the system A.S.A.P.
    .... Pfffffft I give up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    To a certain degree YES it is ALL of our problem But until the Aboriginal community starts to take Full responsibility and take charge for their own lives instead of relying on government/private sector handouts and blaming everyone else for their problems then Nothing will change.
    Another problem is all the "Leaches" that are bleeding the system for their Own personal gains/agendas need to be Culled from the system A.S.A.P.
    I do agree that the ultimate solutions have to come from Aboriginal communities owning the attempts to solve local problems, but keep in mind there has been two centuries of outside interference in these communities and their ability to self-manage has been severely reduced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I seen his interview on one of the morning shows. I still have to ask myself why a white mans charity has to go to the communities and get elders back into teaching the young their traditional ways. That's the way he came across on the TV . I hope that isn't the case.

    Could you imagine the carry ons the current crop of polies from all parties would be like if you proposed cutting all funding and having a rethink and trying a new approach. There is no political party or anyone in any of the parties capable of getting this overhauled into a functioning system that see's true change for the better. The gutter style politics are now the accepted norm in this country.

    Cheers Ean

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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Maybe some of the armchair experts should do some reading before spruiking further.

    Dark Emu - Culture and History | Magabala Books
    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Have you read that one Ian?
    Did his arguments hold up?
    Looks like it would be an interesting read.
    Started reading it.
    The arguments are supported with logic and evidence.
    It's beyond interesting, quite fascinating actually.
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    Dark Emu is reviewed in Aboriginal History, Volume 38, 2014 , Australian National University.. The review is on page 195. Page 221 has a review of the book, " the aboriginal story of Burke and Wills, the forgotten narrative". Interesting.

    http://press-files.anu.edu.au/downlo...9;referer=1268
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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