"How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"
'93 V8 Rossi
'97 to '07. sold.![]()
'01 V8 D2
'06 to 10. written off.
'03 4.6 V8 HSE D2a with Tornado ECM
'10 to '21
'16.5 RRS SDV8
'21 to Infinity and Beyond!
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oh no doubt,, but thats par for the course at that design level,,
and he is right,,
if cash registers are correct,, he hasnt ****ed up yet..![]()
"How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"
'93 V8 Rossi
'97 to '07. sold.![]()
'01 V8 D2
'06 to 10. written off.
'03 4.6 V8 HSE D2a with Tornado ECM
'10 to '21
'16.5 RRS SDV8
'21 to Infinity and Beyond!
1988 Isuzu Bus. V10 15L NA Diesel
Home is where you park it..
[IMG][/IMG]
I for one am really looking forward to what they produce....
It probably won't be all the things I think I want..... but hell 10 years ago I thought the D3 platform was horrid and I'd never buy one.....
I was right I never bought a D3.... but the best Land Rover for me that I have ever owned is my D4.
I would not be all that surprised if a new Defender found its way into my life some time in the future.... We'll see.
Mark
Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most![]()
2015 TDV6 D4.... the latest project... Llams, Traxide, Icom 455, Tuffant Kimberleys and Mofos.... so far.
2012 SDV6 SE D4 with some stuff... gone...
2003 D2a TD5...gone...
2000 D2 V8...gone...
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Compared to some of the stuff he's said, I think a lot of that actually made sense.
As much as he can come across as a pretentious dick, he does know what he's talking about and it does come across that he's passionate about LR and what he does.
He can't half waffle though.....
Dan
'14 Def 110
'75 Lightweight
'98 300Tdi Disco (gone)
'80 2Dr Rangie Classic (gone)
REMLR Registrant No. 436
LROCV Member No. 1703
1976 RRC Suffix D
1979 Series III GS FFR
1980 Series III GS FFR with a Perentie RFSV tub
1991 Discovery 1 3.5 V8 3 door
1993 Discovery 1 200Tdi 3 door
1993 Defender 110 200Tdi ute
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REMLR Registrant No. 436
LROCV Member No. 1703
1976 RRC Suffix D
1979 Series III GS FFR
1980 Series III GS FFR with a Perentie RFSV tub
1991 Discovery 1 3.5 V8 3 door
1993 Discovery 1 200Tdi 3 door
1993 Defender 110 200Tdi ute
Have to say, I haven't like the snippets I've previously heard from McGovern, but I like every bit of that article.
Modern, Relevant, Compelling. - Great three words to describe LR.
I'll cheerfully ignore 'problems' with the old Defender (and my current Disco) because it find it relevant and compelling, especially compelling. If the new Defender is compelling, I'm sure I'll get over any issue I have with it not looking like the old one.
I HATE 'retro' cars like the retro mini, the retro VW, and the retro Toyota FJ thing. If LR pulled a retro Defender it'd be dated before the first one rolled off the production line. I'm coming round to accept that the old is the old, and the new will be the new and as long as the new is as capable and compelling...I'll probably still not be able to afford it.
(Just hope they don't have the ridiculous off-centre number plate like the ugly-butt D5 has.)
Anyone remember Chris Bangle, and all his "Flame Surfacing" crap? He nearly broke BMW, and now the same folk who derided his designs now carry on about "ahead of his time" stuff. Not me, though. His 5 and 7 Series cars are still the ugliest cars I have ever seen, with the exception of the Lexus SC340 and anything from Ssanyong.
McGovern has all the same qualities as Bangle. May he move on sooner rather than later. He won't. though. It took BMW 19 years to wake up to Bangle. Now they have gone back to the crisp, understated design that was their trademark.
JayTee
Nullus Anxietus
Cancer is gender blind.
2000 D2 TD5 Auto: Tins
1994 D1 300TDi Manual: Dave
1980 SIII Petrol Tray: Doris
OKApotamus #74
Nanocom, D2 TD5 only.
"Modern, Relevant, Compelling"...hmm
summed up really = Generic.
Modern = Retro
All new cars are modern in the sense that McGovern is using the word modern. But he's a leading designer, so he should know that modern has actually meant nothing since Modernism (late 1800's), originally from the German Bauhaus school of design, Modern design/style is actually very old.
Relevant = to what / whom?
Compelling = fashionable.
Not necessarily capable, durable or desirable.
...some measured words from the guv, sure. But his over riding principle = luxury = expensive, exclusive, That's not the Defender I know and love.
Capable, Durable, Practical.
Now that hat would be interesting to see in contemporary vehicle design.
The classic design of the current Defender is actually more Modern in terms of clean lines, straight edges and minimal form & function.
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