Replace a Defender with what?

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Originally Posted by timax

G Wagon Pro for me also.
I think the delay in the new defender is because they need to be close to the G wagon in capabilities but a fair bit cheaper and the cant do it.
The great thing to me with the G is that its an Auto. The 70 series once you convert it is up there on price but not as good. G wagon resale for non bling models will also be very good.

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Good point about the auto, plus the standard twin diff locks, rai and tow bar...BUT there doesn't appear to be one in the country, even to test drive. I dropped in to an MB dealer because I was curious and they told me they wouldn't get the Wagon version in without a 10% deposit!

If new Defender does compare to G Prof it would be great, but it seems like the demand for this type of wagon may not be here anymore? Perhaps I am a dinosaur, but it seems very odd. But then I suppose a $30-40k dualcab is a no brainer compared to $80-120k for most buyers. If G Prof was $50k they'd be flying out the door. Hmm

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Originally Posted by trog

Wooden wheels don't go flat though !

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Closer to the mark than you may think. Some of his equipment required a trailer with an absolute minimum of conductive components. Wheels were originally wooden discs from ply, with solid rubber tyres, later fibreglass. The only metal in the whole equipment ended up being the wheel bearings. Wheels were replaced by conventional car wheels for road transport. But he had so much trouble getting this trailer approved for road use that he redesigned it to be carried on the road on a conventional large tandem trailer.

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Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

My local repairer will not touch the late model Ranger/BT50 (the five cylinder model). He says there is a design fault in the oil pump and in many vehicles when you drain the oil the oil pump empties itself and will not re-prime. There is also a well documented failure with plenty of internet references of the single undersized battery going flat every few days if not used. A friend has the older four cylinder model and it had a battery the size of an aircraft carrier and a proper second battery position as standard.

JD, has he considered an Iveco?

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Yes i have seen this as well, apparently this occurs when you let the oil drain for longer than 5 Minutes before refilling.

I saw a tech bulletin on a blokes desk stating that, and i quote “The interval between draining and refilling and starting the engine must not exceed 5 Minutes”
I would think that there would be some safety margins in this, but that is what it said.

Land cruiser 70 series are now 5 stars because Toyota upgrade them with airbags and stability control.

Yes Toyota upgrade these low tech trucks in 2016 because the miners request a 5 star cruiser on their sites.

Quote "Changes made to the Toyota Landcruiser 70 single cab chassis to enable the increased safety rating include structural improvements to the chassis and occupant cabin, the addition of head-protecting side curtain airbags, driver knee airbag, seat belt pre-tensioners and changes to the bonnet and seat designs."

I am also in the market of a new truck and has been thinking about the 70 series.

Apparently some mining companies now use Mahindra because they conform

Well if ancap 5 is not needed and his defenders are doing the job why is he replacing or why did he not order 2 new defenders before their production run ended.

And if its not needed then troopy is his cheapest and readily avilable new option or he can go second hand defender or patrol

New defender is not even on a chassi so doing that work will be out of the question anyway unless he plans to turn them ? over often which he is not.

And no their is not much of a market for those vechiles anymore and only 2 that have ancap 5 and only reason they have ancap5 is due to mines.

Sounds like he is having a winge about a car he likes not being made anymore but has not brought a new one for at least 10 years anyway which causes low demand and no market for said vechile

So have i! I just can't bring myself to it. Yet

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Originally Posted by lyonsy

Well if ancap 5 is not needed and his defenders are doing the job why is he replacing or why did he not order 2 new defenders before their production run ended.

And if its not needed then troopy is his cheapest and readily avilable new option or he can go second hand defender or patrol

New defender is not even on a chassi so doing that work will be out of the question anyway unless he plans to turn them ? over often which he is not.

And no their is not much of a market for those vechiles anymore and only 2 that have ancap 5 and only reason they have ancap5 is due to mines.

Sounds like he is having a winge about a car he likes not being made anymore but has not brought a new one for at least 10 years anyway which causes low demand and no market for said vechile

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Sounds like he buys second-hand and keeps forever. No profit in this type of customer for a manufacturer. I worked for three major manufacturers and a small volume one. We regarded vehicles more than two-three years as "old" and should be replaced with a new one. Second hand buyers are not considered at all in the manufacturers scheme of things. The business is making and selling new ones. I am starting to wonder just how long Toyota will supply models for the rural market in the face of declining demand, rural recession, and longer vehicle life. The urban clients with their up-market SUV's have taken the manufacturer's fancy. The numbers are there and the prices are higher for "St. Margaret's cars" as I have christened them after the expensive private schools where flocks of them gather.

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Originally Posted by bblaze

What about a team of draught horse and a good drey, wasn't many place they couldn't go, good fuel ecomeny, good ground clearance with not much under there to snag
cheers
blaze

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Better get mare's then not stallions.