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    For me it all depends on the situation.
    If it is raining or the track/road is wet or muddy there is little point of waiting at a crossing as the driveline will be fairly cool due to water/mud splashing up during the drive.
    When travelling in normal conditions I will stop and let things cool down at a water crossing, It is also a great opportunity to check out you truck/trailer and having a stretch and a break at the same time or even a bit of a swim is not unpleasant
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    Yeah I do it. Should minimise water into diffs. Also good practice to check a crossing before charging in, I think.

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    The iseal is to have the air in the housings at the same temperature as the water - rarely will you get that (most places water temperature is below air temperature), but the closer to it the less pressure reduction when the housing is chilled by the water. And any decrease in the pressure difference means the airflow through the remote breather is less, and hence the pressure drop is less. After all, they are usually quite long and none too large diameter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by martnH View Post
    I always stop and let the driveline and engine cool down

    As said before the hot air inside gearbox transfer box and diffs if rapidly cool down, will create a vacuum to suck water in

    If you have a defender, it is particularly important because those stupid rubber cap on drive flange will act as diff breather
    Don't you also screw the wading plugs in in a Defender?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeds View Post
    Has anybody actually checked temps after the pre-determined cooling time??

    I have always thought that while your driveline is still above the temp of the water it could suck water in....., therefore thinking it would take longer than 5-10min or the couple of minutes it takes to check depth.

    To date I’ve never had water contamination after water crossing. Maybe it’s the breathers sucking all the cool air in as it’s they have the least amount of resistance for air to travel compared to oil seals.
    Yes agree with this.

    Vehicle components are at their hottest after the vehicle has just stopped,particularly after a long run.

    It will take a lot longer than 10 to 15 minutes for the drive train to cool down,unless ambient temperatures are particularly low,such as south of 20 degrees.

    Sure,it is better to let things cool down before going through deep water,but it will take a lot longer than 10 to 15 minutes for this to be effective.

    Checking all breathers are fitted correctly and not blocked is also very important.

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    Iv'e found most extended breathers are not breathers at all, they usually have enough oil vapour that has condensed overtime to form a meniscus of oil in the tube. Normal driving is fine, the meniscus moves up & down as the diff heats / cools but a sudden dip into cold water the oil wont move through that thin tube so fast and water gets sucked in via seals etc. Probably no better than the old fashioned breather valve on the diff tube. Good idea to camp the other side of the river & crack your diff / gearbox plugs the next morning the oil wont have emulsified & you can drain off the water sitting at the bottom of the oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    Iv'e found most extended breathers are not breathers at all, they usually have enough oil vapour that has condensed overtime to form a meniscus of oil in the tube. Normal driving is fine, the meniscus moves up & down as the diff heats / cools but a sudden dip into cold water the oil wont move through that thin tube so fast and water gets sucked in via seals etc. Probably no better than the old fashioned breather valve on the diff tube. Good idea to camp the other side of the river & crack your diff / gearbox plugs the next morning the oil wont have emulsified & you can drain off the water sitting at the bottom of the oil.
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    I've heard that the procedure is:
    Pull up, look at river. Reverse down river bank until tires touch the water then drive out. This leaves a set of tracks coming out of the river on your side. Pull over. Have a cup of tea and let everything cool down. In this time someone will almost certainly drive up on the other side. They'll see your tracks and you and assume you've driven through. They'll drive through. Watch them and learn if it's doable or not.

    (Confession: I've never done a river crossing)

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    Yes agree with this.

    Vehicle components are at their hottest after the vehicle has just stopped,particularly after a long run.

    It will take a lot longer than 10 to 15 minutes for the drive train to cool down,unless ambient temperatures are particularly low,such as south of 20 degrees.

    Sure,it is better to let things cool down before going through deep water,but it will take a lot longer than 10 to 15 minutes for this to be effective.

    Checking all breathers are fitted correctly and not blocked is also very important.
    Its a question of judgement obviously. If you've been doing 110kmhr up the highway for a couple of hours, more than 10-15 mins will ideally be required. Time for a cuppa and a break anyway. If you've been pootling along at 60 on a dirt track, 10-15 would probably be enough.
    Any cool down time is always better than none.

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    So I was in an ARB store yesterday just getting a blow gun for my compressor (I find they are like guitar stores...the less time you need to spend in them the better) and I overheard a conversation between a staff member and some guy who nearly ran me over in the car park later on because he was hooning through it in his giant Land Cruiser (seriously this dick head nearly ran me over he was going so fast), and they were talking about some big 4WD day that him and all his mates were at with all their big fancy expensive 4WDs and they'd been driving for a while and then came to a river crossing and it sounded like they all just dived in and every car broke down afterwards, with what sounded like pretty major issues, and then lots of repair work ensued afterwards.

    Couldn't help wondering if any of them had actually stopped to let their vehicles cool down. It didn't sound like they did and there was no mention of this in the conversation...is this not common sensible practice? Makes sense to me anyway...

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