Thread: DPF's the end of diesel cars in cities?

Originally Posted by trout1105

So in other words just a place with a 15A outlet and Not a proper outlet.
Far too many markers there that I know DON'T have dedicated charging facilities for electric vehicles.

Still enough to get the job done and get around.

With 500km of range it’s rare many people would need to charge more than once a week.

Obviously there are exceptions...

Originally Posted by trout1105

So in other words just a place with a 15A outlet and Not a proper outlet.
Far too many markers there that I know DON'T have dedicated charging facilities for electric vehicles.

Most of the marked outlets are 3 phase IMHO.

I noticed a couple of tesla charging stations at the local Sirromet winery.

I don't know who pays for the power.They probably do at the moment,but if it gets used a lot i bet that will change.

So if the car is low on power you will spend longer at the place waiting for it to recharge,and spend more money drinking and eating.....

Originally Posted by trout1105

So in other words just a place with a 15A outlet and Not a proper outlet.
Far too many markers there that I know DON'T have dedicated charging facilities for electric vehicles.

Still enough to get the job done and get around.

With 500km of range it’s rare many people would need to charge more than once a week.

Obviously there are exceptions...

Why not option for a trailer hitch. Then build a portable Genset , petrol or diesel powered , add a lead and off you go 😂

We’re looking at a Tesla at the moment.
0-100 in 3.2 has me smiling

Just doing the sums on it but with the Superchargers on our route to Adelaide and the CBD it’s now becoming viable.

Mind you, for the price I can have a shiny FFRR - just not the guaranteed resale.

I'm assuming it will spread like mobile phone charging points and Wi-Fi, they will multiply and be everywhere.
Bluetooth charging will mean you won't even have to plug in.
Your car will save your credit card details and automatically pay for the power it consumes while charging, just like an e-toll.
This is the future, using existing technology, arriving soon.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I see in the the UK there is a new law to require every servo to offer a charging point.

This is more of an intent rather than something the government is forcing/paying for. The legislation only requires motor way services and 'larger' petrol stations to provide electric charging points. There is a a long time frame where this will be achieved perhaps corresponding with when a site is refurbished. Legislation also requires standardisation of chargers which the industry is not so keen on as each has the best plug to connect with. Shell and BP both have their own programs to install electric charging points at petrol stations where they see the demand

The UK government has also stated that once petrol and Diesel fuel sales decrease to some as yet not defined level they will be introducing an alternative method of collecting the tax on mobility that is currently attached to these fuels. Exactly what this will look like is still under discussion. It will though no doubt increase the operating costs of electric cars be they battery or hydrogen powered

Friend has a Nissan Juke battery electric car. In real life driving has a range of 50 miles. Which is just enough to reach the office. Then charge all day and drive home. Could perhaps not charge at work however range varies and prefers to be sure can make it home again. Put on charge over night and is ready for the trip back to work in the morning. Takes about 8 hours to charge at home or work via Nissan home charger. There is a larger public charging network which he can use some of which are car parking spaces along the road near shops. Problems are that someone else has occupied the space before you then with no charge you are stuck or the charger network going down over a large area which seems to be a electric network issue

Electric cars in the UK at least have a massive depreciation rate. With a subsidy they are attractive to new customers however the second hand market is not there. People are careful of new unproven technology. My mate bought the Juke used 18 months old for less than 25% of new price still under new car warranty. He has also discovered the range decreases when the weather turns cold

Have driven a Tesla around Silverstone and it was very good fun. That said the fast chargers had trouble keeping the cars running. Not that most people would be driving like we were. The sales people were saying that the cars had a real world range of about 140 miles without having to drive in a range maximising style. Might make 200 miles is driven carefully.