Thread: DPF's the end of diesel cars in cities?

Originally Posted by Homestar

Heard of a fuse? In reality circuit breakers for dead shorts and highly sophisticated current limiting devices.

Much safer than stuffing 60 to 100 litres of highly flammable liquid in a vehicle but we are all fine with that.

Even in an accident it’s easy to disconnect all power to a vehicle instantly and you don’t have the fuel issues or heat from an engine you have to contend with now.

That's all well and good with a new electric vehicle But what about when they start to get old and they start to get maintained by their owners/backyarders using aftermarket, secondhand or even homemade parts The same way that older petrol/diesel cars are now.
If you have a petrol or even diesel leak you can smell and see it, That isn't the case with electricity.
Then there is the upward effect on household electricity bills, If the government starts loosing revenue on fuel excise you can bet your left nut that they will make it up on electricity charges to make up for the shortfall.
Just food for thought.

Originally Posted by trout1105

That's all well and good with a new electric vehicle But what about when they start to get old and they start to get maintained by their owners/backyarders using aftermarket, secondhand or even homemade parts The same way that older petrol/diesel cars are now.
If you have a petrol or even diesel leak you can smell and see it, That isn't the case with electricity.
Then there is the upward effect on household electricity bills, If the government starts loosing revenue on fuel excise you can bet your left nut that they will make it up on electricity charges to make up for the shortfall.
Just food for thought.

I don’t see what the age of the vehicle has to do with the CO2 numbers from different energy production methods sorry?

How does electricity leak? That’s called a load and is controlled by one device or another.

Of course the’ll end up getting their money from somewhere but my comments were around dropping emissions.

Originally Posted by trout1105

Then there is the upward effect on household electricity bills, If the government starts loosing revenue on fuel excise you can bet your left nut that they will make it up on electricity charges to make up for the shortfall.
Just food for thought.

Hi,
Perhaps in the future, the vehicle WiFi and gps logs will work together and transfer the appropriate $ from your account to the government's.
All sorts of improvements are possible if we ditch the present system, where we rent 12 month permission to drive on the road, regardless of location, time of day, and distance covered.
Multi vehicle owners should not be subsidising single vehicle owners for a start.
Cheers

Originally Posted by austastar

Hi,
Perhaps in the future, the vehicle WiFi and gps logs will work together and transfer the appropriate $ from your account to the government's.
All sorts of improvements are possible if we ditch the present system, where we rent 12 month permission to drive on the road, regardless of location, time of day, and distance covered.
Multi vehicle owners should not be subsidising single vehicle owners for a start.
Cheers

We are already paying for the distance we travel via the fuel excise So the more you travel the more the government takes from you, No need for WiFi or GPS logs to do that.
The largest cost on vehicle registration is for third party insurance so by owning more than one vehicle the extra costs are mainly for having third party insurance on them, Not as a subsidy for single vehicle owners.
So the registration fees are Not necessarily only a permission to drive on the roads They are also a certification that the vehicle is insured against injuring anyone else in case of an accident.

Reminds me of this...

Originally Posted by trog

Why not option for a trailer hitch. Then build a portable Genset , petrol or diesel powered , add a lead and off you go ��

EV's are not able to tow much at the moment, and also I think "GoingBush"'s post in the Alternate Energies section said the charging circuit has to be disabled when the car is moving.

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

EV's are not able to tow much at the moment,

Neither do most small cars on the market. Teslas can tow all right. You just plan the trips differently.

Towing a caravan with a Tesla Model X | Bensmann.no

Originally Posted by trout1105

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If you have a petrol or even diesel leak you can smell and see it, That isn't the case with electricity.

I beg to differ , when Electricity leaks there is a lot of smoke & usually an acrid burning smell .

Interestingly, with my EV conversion, I did not have to seal all the bung holes in my firewall & seal my floor like you would for an internal combustion engine when going for a (vicroads) VASS engineering inspection , As there is no possibility of poisoning by a leaky exhaust system . But you can bet your bottom dollar if I ever smell or see smoke coming in through those holes I'll be banging on that big red emergency stop button !!

Electric cars (at least DIY ones in Australia) have to have a leakage detection circuit , much like a house safety switch, if there is more than 20mA leakage between the traction circuit and chassis you will get alarms & possible shutdown . My BMS is showing 100% isolation which is remarkable , maybe in Winter with the dew & condensation I'll be showing 90% which is still under the 20mA threshold. A Household RCD / ELCB is usually around 10mA .