DPF's the end of diesel cars in cities?

**Mick_Marsh** · 21st February 2018, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by bee utey

Neither do most small cars on the market. Teslas can tow all right. You just plan the trips differently.

Towing a caravan with a Tesla Model X | Bensmann.no

80km/h for 200km then an hour charge. I can beat that travelling at 60km/h.
I wonder what the range would be on a 42 degree day? They do have air conditioning, don't they?

**bee utey** · 21st February 2018, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

80km/h for 200km then an hour charge. I can beat that travelling at 60km/h.
I wonder what the range would be on a 42 degree day? They do have air conditioning, don't they?

Well yes, there are limitations using current technology but a flat "they can't tow" is debunked forthwith.

Tombie · 21st February 2018, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by bee utey

Well yes, there are limitations using current technology but a flat "they can't tow" is debunked forthwith.

And his 500 mile range Prime mover (fully loaded) is coming soon..

**Eevo** · 21st February 2018, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Tombie

And his 500 mile range Prime mover (fully loaded) is coming soon..

its 1 way of enforcing a break every 5 hours, lol

**trout1105** · 21st February 2018, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Tombie

And his 500 mile range Prime mover (fully loaded) is coming soon..

I imagine that the first trailer of the roadtrain has the 50kva genset on it

Regardless of how much range an electric vehicle has got it is reliant on fossil fuels to recharge via the grid or a genset unless it is fully solar powered So they are really Not making any dents in greenhouse emissions at all.

**goingbush** · 21st February 2018, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by trout1105

I imagine that the first trailer of the roadtrain has the 50kva genset on it

Regardless of how much range an electric vehicle has got it is reliant on fossil fuels to recharge via the grid or a genset unless it is fully solar powered So they are really Not making any dents in greenhouse emissions at all.

They are actually , an electric motor is so much more efficient at converting energy into traction than an internal combustion engine . There is only 1 moving part and are no touching parts to create friction wasting energy thus creating heat . Not consuming any oil or requiring oil at service intervals.

Not many countries other rely on coal / diesel to produce electricity.

Tombie · 21st February 2018, 05:33 PM

They’re also shifting the emissions to a “single source” - whatever is needed to produce the power - so if it was a Coal power station there’s need for a coal mine.
Not a need for 3 Oil rigs, Ships, Port operations, a refinery, distribution tankers...

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**Eevo** · 21st February 2018, 05:53 PM

so more job losses then

Tombie · 21st February 2018, 06:12 PM

Nope. Different jobs....

**donh54** · 21st February 2018, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Tombie

They’re also shifting the emissions to a “single source” - whatever is needed to produce the power - so if it was a Coal power station there’s need for a coal mine.
Not a need for 3 Oil rigs, Ships, Port operations, a refinery, distribution tankers...

Big picture

Very few (if any) power stations are built in a coal mine, most use road and/or rail transport to get the coal to the end use point - still lots of diesel or diesel/electric being used in that, plus the handling at either end.

Then the distribution cost of the electricity, poles and wires still have to be manufactured and shipped to where they're used.

A big percentage of the populace have no inkling of the infrastructure that needs to be in place for ANY form of energy to be available for general usage. Until a distribution system falls over, anyway - look at the angst in the UK at the moment, because 900 KFC stores can't get chicken!!

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