Thread: DPF's the end of diesel cars in cities?

Originally Posted by Tombie

Open your view...

In just 10 years the technology has bounded by...
At its current (pun) rate of development I’m confident Battery technology will be streaks ahead.

Now, having said that.. a “Mr Fusion” wouldn’t be a bad thing either...

Mr Fusion & a Flux Capacitor will work for me !!

i dont have a problem with an electric car revolution
but it will take more then 15years for it to catch on, build infrastructure and become dominant.

look at the revolution things we use now. internet, mobiles, pizza delivery. they all took a long time to be dominant.

solar for example, still doenst have 50% penetration yet and its been 10 years

Originally Posted by goingbush

Mr Fusion & a Flux Capacitor will work for me !!

Me too, as long as I don't have to put 'em in a DeLorean. 88 MPH means you could only use them in the NT.

Originally Posted by Eevo

i dont have a problem with an electric car revolution
but it will take more then 15years for it to catch on, build infrastructure and become dominant.

look at the revolution things we use now. internet, mobiles, pizza delivery. they all took a long time to be dominant.

solar for example, still doenst have 50% penetration yet and its been 10 years

Actually at the dawn of the Invention of the motor car and into the early 1900's the fight between Electric cars and Internal Combustion Engines was on, it is said the reason that ICE won the race is because the road Network was being improved (sealed) and it was possible to drive inter city , battery cars were just good for local trips. Its only taken 120 years for battery technology to progress now that there is a need . It took decades for petrol car to dominate , maybe now will take decades to reverse the trend, but I think sooner than that.

Overview of early electric cars (1895-1925) - LOW-TECH MAGAZINE

Originally Posted by Tombie

Open your view...

In just 10 years the technology has bounded by...
At its current (pun) rate of development I’m confident Battery technology will be streaks ahead.

Now, having said that.. a “Mr Fusion” wouldn’t be a bad thing either...

It is usually the Mining companies and the Military that use and develop the new technology and I haven't heard of any widespread use of electric cars/trucks in these areas yet.
Like you said "technology will be streaks ahead in the years to come" So why would anyone be buying the "Beta cord" offerings at the moment when the "VHS" units won't be too far down the track

Originally Posted by trout1105

It is usually the Mining companies and the Military that use and develop the new technology and I haven't heard of any widespread use of electric cars/trucks in these areas yet.
Like you said "technology will be streaks ahead in the years to come" So why would anyone be buying the "Beta cord" offerings at the moment when the "VHS" units won't be too far down the track

You know,,,,, US of A loves their predator drones, bombing the **** of other countries remotely....
Of course they want a ground version, a self piloting tesla-like killing machine.

Check out their next gen combat vehicle project. They will soon have all electric brigades

Originally Posted by trout1105

Can you imagine the sheer size of the solar array and the amount of battery storage that would be needed to run a fleet of dump trucks on a minesite that runs 24/7 and these arrays and battery storage would have to be mobile because of the changing nature of developing Minesites.
We are talking trucks that can weigh 400t loaded going up and down ramps that usually have huge diesel motors driving generators to run the wheel motors at the moment, Where would you fit all the batteries needed to run the truck without compromising its carrying capacity?
Maybe a fleet of LV's could be run But the Big machinery would need a quantum leap in battery technology to run on electricity.

This is the largest dump truck at the moment.
Electric Mobility: World's Largest Truck - Mobility & Motors - Pictures of the Future - Innovation - Home - Siemens Global Website
It has 4 separate wheel motors that are powered by 2x 1,700kw 16 cylinder diesel engines, It will take quite a few solar panels to run this puppy.

The biggest load requirement for haul trucks is going up the ramps, theres already places that utilise "trolley assist" for the ramps - truck hooks up to overhead powerlines and runs from a baseload power source for the ramp - gives full power to the wheel motors and the diesel basically idles up the ramp, so the engine lasts a little longer and uses less diesel. Can also be used on the way down the ramp with dynamic brakes and throw power back into the grid.
300-tonne Euclid dumper with trolley assist - YouTube

No reason you couldnt replace the diesel with a large battery bank to do the run to the digger and crusher and the high load run up the ramp can be handled by the baseload power ( the mine I work at is gas turbines)

Originally Posted by martnH

You know,,,,, US of A loves their predator drones, bombing the **** of other countries remotely....
Of course they want a ground version, a self piloting tesla-like killing machine.

Check out their next gen combat vehicle project. They will soon have all electric brigades

MartnH

Please keep the political undertones out