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    Can defender be sealed by ally tig welding?

    Hey all, not sure if this is a stupid question or not. Firstly, i know there is a water ingress manual involving sika and maybe rubber replacement etc.

    My question is, is it possible to tig weld trouble area’s like the centre seam on the roof and inside the gutters. I’m not a welder so I don’t know if this will crack the welds or force movement in other area’s after twisting from general 4wding?

    Just seems like a more permanent solution. I couldn’t find a thread on here with anyone saying they’ve done it, which is making me think might be a bad idea for some reason i am unaware of.

    On a side note, from what i have been lead to believe the roof top/ pop top conversions from places like the expedition centre also help stop water leaks. Curious as to why?

    TIA for your answers. Can defender be sealed by ally tig welding?

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    Can defender be sealed by ally tig welding?

    You could weld up the centre seam but the effort to get it clean to weld would make Sika flexing the joint cheaper.

    Sika is also flexible as well so won’t split if the roof twists.

    I’d say the pop top conversions replace the roof with a new and possibly superior design.

    So in short I think it’s just not worth the hassle welding it.
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    Are you aware that the roof on many passenger vehicles is essentially fitted with a type of Sikaflex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Are you aware that the roof on many passenger vehicles is essentially fitted with a type of Sikaflex?
    All the post 1990’s tractor windows are Sika flexed now as well. They certainly stand up to a lot of abuse.
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    Yeah, i kinda figured the splitting might be an issue. Like to know if anyone has given it a crack (pun intended).

    Regarding the use on defenders and other cars.. I have read on here that people have to do it every 5 yrs or so. Is that accurate? Makes me wonder why it works on other cars?

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    THINK TWICE ABOUT WELDING

    Be careful where you are welding, Sika flexed is used where there this likely to be flexing or movement if this is the case then welding would cause cracking and possible damage to the panels in and around the weld .
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    Nope. Last Defender didn’t leak from anywhere but the bottom of the doors.
    Overloading roofs, excessive offroad flexing, torsionally unsuitable roof racks etc can all contribute to stressing seams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRT View Post
    You could weld up the centre seam but the effort to get it clean to weld would make Sika flexing the joint cheaper.

    Sika is also flexible as well so won’t split if the roof twists.

    I’d say the pop top conversions replace the roof with a new and possibly superior design.

    So in short I think it’s just not worth the hassle welding it.
    Regarding the pop tops.. I will have to have a closer look

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    Quote Originally Posted by jezzarezza View Post
    Yeah, i kinda figured the splitting might be an issue. Like to know if anyone has given it a crack (pun intended).

    Regarding the use on defenders and other cars.. I have read on here that people have to do it every 5 yrs or so. Is that accurate? Makes me wonder why it works on other cars?
    I have seen Defenders that have carried too much weight on the roof and they split up the front above the windscreen.

    I’d say it depends on what sort of silastic was used.

    I have used Sikaflex on all sorts of things such as water tanks (make sure it’s the potable type!) & countless tractor windows without any leaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jezzarezza View Post
    Regarding the pop tops.. I will have to have a closer look
    Also if you welded the inside (not sure if that’s possible) would be no need for clean up/ less of a clean up

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