I have a 4wd 2.0l twin turbo car. What is yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by rammypluge
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I have a 4wd 2.0l twin turbo car. What is yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by rammypluge
If the future viability of the company is dependent on the sales of a few RWD hotrods then they are is serious Do-Do. They need to sell thousands of cars to the masses and fleets all of which either don't know or don't care which end of the stick is controlling the show.Quote:
Originally Posted by rammypluge
It's not just the hot rods.Quote:
Originally Posted by pop058
It's the larger family sedans. These have gradually been replaced by the SUV type vehicle.
The average family now has a choice between a 4cyl buzz box and a large gas guzzling behemoth. Nothing in between unless you want a BMW or a Merc.
Bring back the Commodore and the Falcon.
I do not believe there is a market in Oz for "large family sedans" anymore. As you said, this is being serviced by "SUVs" ( a term I detest).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh
On your other point, if given the choice of a new Falcon, Commodore, BMW or Merc, I think the Oz buyer has already made that decision and as a result we don't have a local car manufacturing industry anymore.
But why have RWD Commode sales tanked since the glory days of the VT, in 1998? Could it be that the vast percentage of Commode buyers don't give a stuff what sort of drive axles a car has? The tiny percentage of buyers looking for tyre smoke from the optional monster Chev V8 engines can't support the local manufacture of an obsolete product. Holdens couldn't even carry over the Crewman 4WD ute into the VE line.Quote:
Originally Posted by rammypluge
RWD makes a lot of sense if you want a multipurpose inexpensive vehicle. It can tow. The more the boot is loaded, the more traction it has (and needs). It has excellent fundamental dynamics (although please dont hang the engine out of the front of the car aka E series falcons). It is lighter, cheaper and more fuel efficient than its next best competitor, rear biased all wheel drive.
Yes, a territory with rear biased awd and more weight is better at towing and particularly pulling a boat up a boat ramp. So if you need that, go for that.
The falcon in particular in my view but also the commodore were optimised for australian conditions. They had gearing, aerodynamics, engine choice and tuning well suited to long distance high (ish) speed driving.
Falcons often had suspension and an underbody well suited to driving dirt and rough roads often found in australia. If you live in a rural area and dont have one, why not? Subarus are just not in the running.
rwd = mad skids
Quite. Everything a RWD "large family sedan" could do can be done better by a soft roader, mid size FWD sedan or mini van. Shortening, narrowing and raising the family car yet keeping interior room is facilitated by not having a whomping great transmission tunnel down the middle. It all started with the Austin 1800 way back in the 60's, pity the fact that the drive technology wasn't quite there yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by pop058
If they improved the rear seat accomodation and put a turbodiesel in it i cant help thinking it would have been sufficiently popular.Quote:
Originally Posted by bee utey
FWD Mini or Moke, hand brake on and full lock, magic donuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo