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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    Nothing personal, but my Mum is 92 and wouldn't have a clue what you mob are on about
    Understanding and batting about the Magyck Werds is only ego-feeding.

    You Mum would have eaten 'Real' food, in her most important formative years, usually fresh and prepared from scratch and few if ANY toxins such as aspartame, weirdly named food additives, glyphosphate, atrazine, flouride and refined salt - just for starters.

    Also her social connections were probably better defined and her life free of most modern stressors. Her sleep was not disturbed by an excess of 'blue' light late in the day & evening.- TV and phone screens. Her brain would have been active too...
    Even the fruit she ate was not contaminated AND less (obnoxiously) sweet than current varieties.

    You could do worse than imitate your Mother's dietary direction and 'Attitude'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Thanks but I am after "proper" tested and approved supplements - I can get the snake oil variants at the chemist. Interesting when I my weight was the lowest through cutting down the bad stuff my Triglycerides were at the highest - I was eating lots of fruit and fruit can cause rises in triglycerides - as well as bad stuff and good stuff like olive oil and avocadoes fruit is also off the food list.

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    Why are you $o desperate to source and BUY super-tested, refined, examined, documented, proved and EXPENSIVE 'British Pharmocopeia' quality , Aussie-government - approved supplemental Omega 3.... if it's just as simple to get it from (real) Food...
    - Top 10 Foods with the Highest Omega 3 to Omega 6 Ratio


    Eating less poison means you need less antidote !

    Edit: Don't look apply your high standards to all modern medicines, you may be surprised at those which are not THAT effective either !

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    Understanding and batting about the Magyck Werds is only ego-feeding.

    You Mum would have eaten 'Real' food, in her most important formative years, usually fresh and prepared from scratch and few if ANY toxins such as aspartame, weirdly named food additives, glyphosphate, atrazine, flouride and refined salt - just for starters.

    Also her social connections were probably better defined and her life free of most modern stressors. Her sleep was not disturbed by an excess of 'blue' light late in the day & evening.- TV and phone screens. Her brain would have been active too...
    Even the fruit she ate was not contaminated AND less (obnoxiously) sweet than current varieties.

    You could do worse than imitate your Mother's dietary direction and 'Attitude'.
    No, not much really. Her fiance, my Dad to be, was only fighting a war in New Guinea, her Dad (My Grand Dad) was suffering from gassing in the 1st World War, Oh, and there was something called a "Depression", apparently.
    Gee, she should have got over it,hey?

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    You Lose...

    How old are you? - and after all these years you STILL haven't learned the impossibility of winning any argument or difference of opinion with your Mother ???

    We are given "Mothers" so that we are properly trained for when we replace them with..





    Wives.

    Ah, that makes sense... Father practising being 'absent' before he sires kids... Gotta admire his planning skills ! grandfather self-absorbed with his own health issues and bad decisions (should have stayed home like his Mum said...) and Parents obsessing over a Wall Street hiccup....
    No wonder, - You had a deprived childhood.....

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    Thanks for all the dietry advice but already have that covered - back to the actual question -

    "So does anyone know where you can get Omega 3 supplements(Aust R or Aust L rated) that are "real vitamins" and not the snake oil crap that Natural Medicine flogg off."

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    AustR means registered with TGA. As far as I am aware, only items that have a significant risk level are required to be registered. These are generally prescription only, or pharmacy only medication.
    You may be struggling to find many supplements that want to go through that (very expensive) process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donh54 View Post
    AustR means registered with TGA. As far as I am aware, only items that have a significant risk level are required to be registered. These are generally prescription only, or pharmacy only medication.
    You may be struggling to find many supplements that want to go through that (very expensive) process.
    Thanks - all drugs (legal) etc have to be registered and approved by the TGA the process in itself is not all that expensive.

    The expensive bit is the scientific testing that drugs have to go through as part of their development process - and being approved by the US FDA etc.

    Snake oil supplements generally do not go scientific testing and rely on testimonials. As a general statement when scientifically tested they fail to prove they are effective.

    By way of example for many years Glucosamine has been marketed by the snake oil sellers as a treatment for arthritis but when actually scientifically tested was found to be no more effective than a placebo and Glucosamine is still being pushed for arthritis even though it is know not to work.

    The other is fish oil to reduce things like triglycerides etc - is scientifically proven to work but the effects were not flowing through to patients using fish oil in the market place. So they did a trial to find out why - the oil used in the original test was raw, fresh and not processed into tablets and capsules. When they did the same test with fish oil bought from chemists etc they found it did not work yet the original samples did - product substitution was suspected but was not the case - apparently fish oil has to be consumed immediately it is made as it oxidizes quickly and is then of little use - so by the time the oil is manufactured, then placed into capsules, transported, sits on the shelves and then sold it is no longer effective - the same does not happen with fish oil in fresh fish etc.

    I know of only one prescription drug that is a Omega 3 supplement and that is Omacor which contains highly purified omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids - the dose to lower tryglyceride is 4 tabs a day.

    If I cannot get an over counter Aust R or Aust L supplement I will get the prescription medicine.

    Looks like it is only the snake oil companies that sell supplements.

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    Better idea - if you don't trust Snake Oil Companies - and I'm sure SWISSE and Blackmore's would think their 'Omega 3 Oils' are above such terminology - is to take the fish-oils (Omega 3's) in their natural, bioAvailable and 'fresher' form.
    Inside a fish.

    Get you teeth into this 'Starter'
    What Is Wild Alaskan Salmon Good For?


    Main Course :- Rudi Moerck on Fish Oil: When to Never EVER Use It
    But wiat, - There's More !
    Mercola sells the best quality Krill oil...
    Krill Oil – Is this the NEW #1 Source of Omega-3?

    For Desserts I'd be inclined to buy Aussie.- https://www.hempfoods.com.au/omega-3 The plant that keeps on giving... oil from the seeds makes you Healthy, and other parts can make you.... Happy.

    So today , I've learnt something new:- that fish get the Omega 3 from plants.

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    Yep for sure...which is why algae O3 oil is not snake oil. It's the source. It's like B12. Cows don't produce B12. It's going in soil (base of grass) and they eat it and the B12 lodges in them.

    Unfortunately wild fish has mercury and plastic in their flesh...

    Cheers

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    Neither do I and my blood is all good, or so my Doctor says.
    Cheers, Billy.
    Keeping it simple is complicated.

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