Journalistic Credibility???

**FenianEel** · 22nd March 2006, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by Timmo
Nothing worse than listening to Eddie McGuire commentate on a collingwood game, no bias there.

My low view of journalists comes from every time there is any sort of aeroplane incident, no matter how minor we see headlines like "Horror Death Flight", and interviews with the most idiotic passenger who "heard a huge bang, then we just dropped, I'd never been so scared in my life. We thought we were going to die". Never a fact about what actually happened to be seen. :roll:

I like 4x4 Monthly though....

I like 4x4 Mthly as well, it is one of the mags I buy. I love the LR mags, and buy too many of them, but content to advertising ratio is ridiculous!

In regards to headlines....
Unfortunately, despite all the headlines and sensationalism, and everyhting else - people still buy that paper, watch that news etc. Look at so called nightly commercial current affairs shows, that's not objective, nor is it current affairs, nor is truly representative of the facts, but they rate their kahunas off!

People - they're the worst & so stupid.
Not like me - Homo Superious!!

it's everybody thats nuts - I'm fine

**Quiggers** · 22nd March 2006, 01:44 PM

Journalist here and editor in chief when it suits.

There are some real dodgy dudes in the fourth estate, you often see them on the telly.

But there are some excellent people doing the job properly.

I don't think Eddie is a journo, tho'. But he's now running Channel 9!

Crikey, is it me or have I noticed an increase in AFL players masquerading as commentators?

Cheers, GQ

**Redback** · 22nd March 2006, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by incisor
generalisations are dangerous and do nothing to show off your own IQ IMHO.

like any other form of life on earth, there are good and bad ones...

lumping them all in one bundle only detracts from the merits of the good ones.

why is it that this is (in general) a growing trend?

My thoughts excactly :!:

And Ace i think it's been a long time since Nissan won 4WDOTY.

disco95 · 22nd March 2006, 07:07 PM

I'd agree Baz, Nissan needs to do something new to win 4WDOTY, they've been selling the same car for how many years now?

**wardy1** · 22nd March 2006, 07:49 PM

Dean it's nice to see you here, even better knowing that there are some of you in 4WD monthly land who are fans of the marque.
Accepting that you believe Mr Moon is unbiased, why not make sure that his write ups are balanced by perhaps doing an 'off road camper of the year' with multiple judges as you do in 4wdoty.
This is a rapidly growing sector of the market...probably close in growth to the 4wd market itself. I think it justifies some proper, unbiased and importantly, unquestionable analysis.

Wow.... did I just say all that?

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**rick130** · 23rd March 2006, 05:27 AM

Originally posted by disco95
I'd agree Baz, Nissan needs to do something new to win 4WDOTY, they've been selling the same car for how many years now?

be a little careful, how long has the Defender been around ??

Most of the Patrolophiles on the various boards are a bit like Defender owners "please don't change it" ie. don't go IFS, etc

**CraigE** · 23rd March 2006, 06:05 AM

Since Ron Moon has stepped aside as editor of 4x4 Australia the magazine has turned to utter crap. It is just one big ad and endorsement for Toymota. I used to think Rons opinion was good and unbiased and once upon a time it was. There is too much journalism based on sponsorship and looking after friends such as Toymota, ARB etc even though there are better products. Generally I will try and read between the lines to get a decent revue. 4X4 Monthly is my pick of the magazines although they can be biased. They seem to be coming around to the virtues of Land Rover lately though.
I am sorry if this offends some but jounalism and integrity do not go hand in hand. All journos have been corrupted in some form and offer some sort of bias in their reporting. After all it is their job to sell magazines, papers, tv shows etc.
From what I have seen journos will not let the truth get in the way of a good story. Nearly every story that I have seen published that I have some knowledge in has some mistakes and additional information from non existent or unreliable sources. It is shamefull to see peoples words twisted to suit anothers agenda. Too often facts are not verified.

**Steinzy** · 23rd March 2006, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by CraigE
Since Ron Moon has stepped aside as editor of 4x4 Australia the magazine has turned to utter crap. It is just one big ad and endorsement for Toymota. I used to think Rons opinion was good and unbiased and once upon a time it was. There is too much journalism based on sponsorship and looking after friends such as Toymota, ARB etc even though there are better products. Generally I will try and read between the lines to get a decent revue. 4X4 Monthly is my pick of the magazines although they can be biased. They seem to be coming around to the virtues of Land Rover lately though.
I am sorry if this offends some but jounalism and integrity do not go hand in hand. All journos have been corrupted in some form and offer some sort of bias in their reporting. After all it is their job to sell magazines, papers, tv shows etc.
From what I have seen journos will not let the truth get in the way of a good story. Nearly every story that I have seen published that I have some knowledge in has some mistakes and additional information from non existent or unreliable sources. It is shamefull to see peoples words twisted to suit anothers agenda. Too often facts are not verified.

I agree

and I have also noticed that 4x4 Monthly has started to favor land rovers a little more

**Juz** · 23rd March 2006, 11:51 AM

As far as I can tell, all the 4X4 mags have taken more notice and appreciation of Landies.
4X4 Australia used a Defender 130 across the Madigan, and a Defender in the Gulf to Gulf yarn and the Editor seemed pretty impressed.
Ads don't govern editorial.
cheers,
Juz

DiscoMick · 23rd March 2006, 11:57 AM

I just wish they'd stop resorting to the "Landies are unreliable" line in every article. Its like they feel they can't write about a Landy without including that comment as a kind of reflex. Its crap of course. Does every Nissan article say 3.0 litre diesel engines blow up or Toyota front IFS breaks? No, of course not. They should stop perpetuating the same myth about Landies.

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