Thread: Professional truck drivers?

A lot of interesting points. Seems that more information is needed than just the photos. There are so many scenarios that could have played out, that would see the bdoubles behaviour as acceptable or unacceptable.

If only the two photos are offered, i wouldnt be surprised if as a group we could imagine ten scenarios seeing the bdouble as acceptable, and ten that see it as unacceptable.

One theory could be that the camera car was unjustifiably making it harder for the bdouble to overtake, and that there was a broken line, that the bdouble took a reasonable and legal opportunity to overtake, but the road train sped up, the broken line ran out, and the caravan didnt back off and give him a space to pull into.

Sounds like it didnt go that way, but we need a narrative.

A DG truckie should be a lot more careful, a lot more risk adverse.

But maybe an extremely unlikely scenario just happenned to play out. And maybe, even though there were double unbroken lines suggesting there would be compromised sight lines, maybe being high up in a truck meant sight lines were good.

Because if sight lines were bad, almost no matter what happenned up to that point, he should have at least braked, even to a stop if need be, rather than proceed. Proceeding on the wrong side of the road around a fast blind corner with DG would be irresponsible in the extreme. Unless perhaps his brakes failed.

No DG involved in the two pictures I can see.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

No DG involved in the two pictures I can see.

No B doubles in those images either they are both road trains, Or if you prefer semi's with an extra trailer.
It looks to me like Old Mate in the side tipper pulled off onto the shoulder of the road because he/she also thought that the other truck was being stupid and moved out of the way in case there was traffic coming the other way on that blind corner.

Originally Posted by trout1105

No B doubles in those images either they are both road trains, Or if you prefer semi's with an extra trailer.
It looks to me like Old Mate in the side tipper pulled off onto the shoulder of the road because he/she also thought that the other truck was being stupid and moved out of the way in case there was traffic coming the other way on that blind corner.

Long Vehicle sign on one, Roadtrain sign on the other.
Long Vehicle sign means a B double (unless you're running a PBS "pocket roadtrain" into urban areas, in which case you change the signs at the last roadtrain pad).
As for DG drivers being better drivers, the majority are company drivers, who have been through a course paid for by the company. How many training companies will stay in business if they keep failing students? Nowadays, none of them want to risk it. The courses are designed so that even the dumbest of the dumb will pass. That's a big part of the reason I got out of the training industry.
As to the actual dangers involved in the manoeuvre, we will never know, because we're basing the whole discussion on two photos. (Plus a third one thrown in for purely emotive impact, sorta like a Today Tonight segment).
Was the move illegal -sure. Was it dangerous - without more information we can't make a rational judgment.
Perhaps - since we're getting hypothetical here - the roadtrain moved to the left to purposely kick up stones to get the caravan driver to get of his arse!

Explosives are a separate additional course. I havent done that. I dont know anything about that course.

Originally Posted by trout1105

No B doubles in those images either they are both road trains, Or if you prefer semi's with an extra trailer.
It looks to me like Old Mate in the side tipper pulled off onto the shoulder of the road because he/she also thought that the other truck was being stupid and moved out of the way in case there was traffic coming the other way on that blind corner.

Defiantly a B Double

Originally Posted by trout1105

No B doubles in those images either they are both road trains, Or if you prefer semi's with an extra trailer.
It looks to me like Old Mate in the side tipper pulled off onto the shoulder of the road because he/she also thought that the other truck was being stupid and moved out of the way in case there was traffic coming the other way on that blind corner.

The tipper is a road train and the other is a B-double.