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    Who knows stuff about electric hot water services?

    One for the brains trust. We have suddenly begun to have a dramatically reduced quantity of hot water available each day; there is a fresh supply daily as usual but it runs out quickly. Rheem 200l electric water heater that heats on night rate. The online reading I did last night indicated that it was most likely to be caused by a blown lower element in a 2-element tank, but when I had a look it only has the one element. I bled the relief valve but there didn't seem to be air trapped at the top; i.e. water came out straight away. I'd love to get some advice that might save me getting one of our useless local plumbers out.

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    So you only have a bottom element?

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    Yes, one 6kw element. Oh, and it's 400L, not 200 like I said earlier.

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    Hot water tanks usually have an outlet a fair way down from the top, and an inner curved plastic tube extending into the very top of the unit. My guess is that it has fallen off. If you unscrewed the outlet fitting and allowed the water level to drop you should be able to probe into the tank to see if this is true. If the tank has dual outlets you may be able to use the opposite one.

    If you have top mounted fittings then there would be an internal tube delivering cold water to the bottom of the tank. If this fell off the cold water would mix with the hot water at the top of the unit, cooling it quickly.

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    This is getting more puzzling; the cold water inlet is at the bottom of the unit, so I guess there's no dropper pipe. The hot water outlet is near the top of the unit, so I guess there's no riser pipe either. I've read a suggestion that the tank may be partially full of sediment, but it seemed to be a sudden change in the available volume of hot water so that doesn't really make sense. Still eager for suggestions.
    We raised four teenage girls on this hot water unit, I used to get a tepid shower now and then with six of us in the house but we've had more hot water than we could use now that there's only 3 of us here. I had the second shower yesterday, in & out in about 90 seconds and it was already starting to get cooler.

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    Hi,
    What is the state of the safety overflow? Are you bleeding hot water out of a valve that is not seating properly?
    If it is, open the valve a few times to flush it, turn the main water tap off, open the safety valve again and let it spring shut, turn on water mains and check for water bleeding from the overflow.
    Cheers

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    Thanks, the safety valve has a rigid pipe attached that disappears into the slab, presumably to a drain pipe. I'll disconnect the pipe at the valve so I can see if it's letting water go.

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    Hi,
    Feel the pipe where it goes into the slab. It should not be hot because the heat should not conduct that far down.
    Cheers

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    My guess without more info is you have a split element

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    My guess without more info is you have a split element
    Agreed.

    Pod - How old is it and is there a make and model number still legible anywhere?
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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