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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Most of the "Organised" farmers know that there are periods where their property will be drought affected and plan for that scenario.
    We always hear about the poor old farmer when there is a drought But they keep pretty quiet during the good seasons.
    Farms are just like any other business and they need to be run as such, If they run out of funds or fodder during a drought then that can be put down to poor Management 99.99% of the time.
    Silage will last for years and so will hay if properly stored and these things should be produced in the good years so that you are Not competing for feed in a demanding market.
    Getting unemployed people to work for peanuts to support a badly run business is BS.
    I'm sympathetic to the attitude, but if, for example, you're a grain grower, you can't store rain falling at the right time.

    Re Australian businesses, as Mungo McCallum said, hasn't it always been the case that the Australian model is to socialise losses and privatise profits?
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    Not all farmers are doing it tough

    look at the sale results of the working dog Auction, Lot 48, $22,200 record price for a Kelpie a couple of days ago.

    http://www.castertonkelpieassociatio...-catalogue.pdf

    my own Kelpies uncle sold for $12,000 at Jerildirie Auction a few years ago.

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    No, the drought is not everywhere.
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    We haven't had a "Normal" Wet Season in the Northern Gulf for years.
    We were cut off for 2 weeks this year, 4 weeks last year & not at all the year before.
    Normal years we are cut off for at least a couple of months.
    The longest period of sustained rain we got this year was 4 days, normally we have a couple of sustained rain events of 2-4 weeks every Wet.
    The weather; She's a changing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    No, the drought is not everywhere.
    Not in my stomping ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    Not all farmers are doing it tough

    look at the sale results of the working dog Auction, Lot 48, $22,200 record price for a Kelpie a couple of days ago.

    http://www.castertonkelpieassociatio...-catalogue.pdf

    my own Kelpies uncle sold for $12,000 at Jerildirie Auction a few years ago.
    A good dog is worth its weight in gold, for a man alone. I will tell a story about my Uncle Gordon, a bit of a rogue. Back in the day Dad and Gordon went to town , to wet the whistle. Can't remember which town, could have been Quilpie, Ilfracombe, Hughenden, or a couple of others. The local squire came to town, with his champion Kelpie. Long story short, same kelpie left town with them. Now Gordon told Dad he bought it off a man down on his luck, in the local pub. Some time later, said squire came to visit where the kelpie was working, under Gordon. He took one look at the dog, and went to talk to the boss. Boss came down, and said " Gordon where did you get the dog, Gordon?" to which Uncle replied " why, I bought him off a bloke down on his luck at the pub, paid 10 pounds for him " To which the squire replied " my good man that is my champion dog. I will give you your 10 pound back, and take him." So uncle had 3 months work out of a top dog, and ended up 10 pound better off.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    I was just talking to a young farmhand earlier this evening. He's up Narrabri way, and while we were talking about his 130 chassis rust, it started raining. I said to him, I wish that bloody rain would stop here.... he was praying for it.... hasn't had any for months.

    He's concerned there'll be no work soon. His boss has 3000Ha, and most all of it is under fallow.

    I can't imagine not being able to plant, because there's no rain, and then 6 weeks later, when it's too late to plant, get the needed rains. Then, because it's rained, you can't plant for another 4-5 weeks, because you can't get a machine onto the paddock.

    It's not a straightforward argument. Makes no difference what line of business the farmer's in. If you're stuck in a drought, you're at the mercy of the rains. When it breaks, you're almost guaranteed a flood.

    There's nothing predictable about the seasonal changes anymore, even with the detailed forecasting and modelling from the met burearu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercguy View Post
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    There's nothing predictable about the seasonal changes anymore, even with the detailed forecasting and modelling from the met burearu.
    I'm not sure there ever was! Certainly not in my experience, which really only goes back about sixty years since I started paying any attention to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    They're old dairy farms and I'd guess that they're on the market because on their own they're not large enough to be financially viable.

    I'd guess that the reference to cattle cf dairy is to fattening or agisting store stock, not breeding.

    Edit: yes, I grew up on a farm.
    Hmmm.........

    The dairy sheep down here need scuba gear.
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    It's a tad wet.

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