Current model Troopcarrier

For me, these are one of the vehicles I'll be looking at when I can hopefully retire in 6>7yrs time. They have more storage area than the Defenders and they are about 20cm longer in the back (from behind the front seats to rear door) than the Defenders. Come standard with 180ltrs of fuel on board (the other 70 series models only have 130ltrs as std). A good improvement for me would be if they would come out with 5doors instead of the 3doors. (76's is too small for me for want I want to do)

The front/rear track difference they say is a PITA but to what extent I don't know, there are others that aren't bothered by it.... The Suspension is like any other vehicle - u need to upgrade it to improve it. The seating sounds like it requires upgrading along with the stereo system..... Looking at the specs, it says that A/C is included but that's not what fellas at work have said when they recently bought theirs.

Like any CRD engine, extra fuel filtration would be needed when touring. The interior noise from the engine is probably another thing that would need attention as they are probably in the same league as the Defender (??). The issue with highway cruising has apparently been fixed to some extent with a taller 5th gear allowing for better Hwy driving.

The one thing that does worry me with the latest models is the DPF's. I haven't read/heard of the same issues that they are having with the Hiluxes, but for remote touring and the DPF doing a "burn" at the wrong time when driving through tracks with long dry grass would be a little bit concerning...

The new price that u pay for what u actually get is at a premium too....


Time will tell whether we stick our Defender or move to the Troopy, but as its still 6>7yrs away, anything can happen between now and then.... It will probably be more like a 2nd hand vehicle that we end up looking at then as I'm not sure the current platform will still exist in another 6>7yrs ...

Just hope that you never need to work on or replace the alternator or starter motor. Absolute pig of an engine to work on - ask anyone who has to maintain them.

None of you will be looking at a new one in a few years time.

These vehicles are going to be phased out of production soon.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

None of you will be looking at a new one in a few years time.

These vehicles are going to be phased out of production soon.

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The largest market for the troopies used to be the mining companies But this role is now bieng taken over by prado's and minivans and I dont think that it would make much sense for Toyota to continue the troopies.
The 70 series utes and dual cabs fitted with a decent canopy are a better option as a Touring truck anyway[thumbsupbig]

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Originally Posted by trout1105

The largest market for the troopies used to be the mining companies But this role is now bieng taken over by prado's and minivans and I dont think that it would make much sense for Toyota to continue the troopies.
The 70 series utes and dual cabs fitted with a decent canopy are a better option as a Touring truck anyway[thumbsupbig]

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I would tend to disagree with u on that.... Defenders and Troopy's make up a huge amount of the vehicles used for Overlanding, but it also really comes down to your own style of touring as well.... but at some point in the not too distant future, I reckon the 70's series will more than likely come to an end in its current form....

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Originally Posted by Robmacca

I would tend to disagree with u on that.... Defenders and Troopy's make up a huge amount of the vehicles used for Overlanding, but it also really comes down to your own style of touring as well.... but at some point in the not too distant future, I reckon the 70's series will more than likely come to an end in its current form....

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Maybe in Oz but not elsewhere... in the past 10-15 years I have lived/worked in Southern and Eastern Africa, Laos, Madagascar and PNG, literally hundreds of thousands of 70 series all with the 1HZ, the V8 was only introduced to RSA 2 years a go... most with Blurred Vision,UN, USAID etc...stickers on them, the last lot we bought for Madagascar were sourced from the UAE.

There will always be a market for a basic, robust, reliable 3-4t 4WD van/truck/ute...

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Originally Posted by Tombie

None of you will be looking at a new one in a few years time.

These vehicles are going to be phased out of production soon.

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Soon?

Toyota themselves said around 10yrs ago that the model would end in the near future.

Since then they have updated the models twice,and they continual to sell pretty well.

Australia isn't the only market,they are still sold with a petrol and the old 6 diesel diesel in many overseas markets.

Sure the design of the vehicle is antiquated,but until safety regs catch up to it or sales drop off substantially,it will still be around.

Anything Toyota say should be taken with a pinch of salt.I remember them saying years ago they would never put a V8 in a LC.

Now there isn't a model in Aus that doesn't have one.

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Originally Posted by scarry

Soon?

Toyota themselves said around 10yrs ago that the model would end in the near future.

Since then they have updated the models twice,and they continual to sell pretty well.

Australia isn't the only market,they are still sold with a petrol and the old 6 diesel diesel in many overseas markets.

Sure the design of the vehicle is antiquated,but until safety regs catch up to it or sales drop off substantially,it will still be around.

Anything Toyota say should be taken with a pinch of salt.I remember them saying years ago they would never put a V8 in a LC.

Now there isn't a model in Aus that doesn't have one.

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Well the V8 doesn’t meet the emissions standards so it’s gone next year, and the vehicle doesn’t meet new safety standards so it’s gone soon also.

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Well the V8 doesn’t meet the emissions standards so it’s gone next year, and the vehicle doesn’t meet new safety standards so it’s gone soon also.

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What emission standards?
From what i have read the dates for the next standard have not been finalised due to fuel quality issues.
But everything that is printed is not always correct.

Safety standards for commercial vehicles?
Not much is changing for light commercial vehicles until late 2022,unless a new model is produced,which i doubt.

As can be seen at the end of this article,if it is correct,

https://bitre.gov.au/publications/2017/files/is_087.pdf

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Originally Posted by scarry

What emission standards?
From what i have read the dates for the next standard have not been finalised due to fuel quality issues.
But everything that is printed is not always correct.

Safety standards for commercial vehicles?
Not much is changing for light commercial vehicles until late 2022,unless a new model is produced,which i doubt.

As can be seen at the end of this article,if it is correct,

https://bitre.gov.au/publications/2017/files/is_087.pdf

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I was reading that Euro 6 is required for all vehicles post 1/7/18.

Apparently the current 1VD-FTV struggles with it and Toyota was looking for another unit.

This is becoming an expensive exercise for all manufacturers and seems to be impacting reliability.

It will be interesting to see the fallout of these requirements.