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    I worked as a postman for 25 years, after 21 years military service. Best job I ever had [ really only had 2, I guess] Back in the day, we all cared. If you didn't go the extra yard, your fellow posties jumped on you. In those days, at the beginning, the offices were relatively small, average about 10 to 20 postmen, everyone knew their customers, if a customer had a complaint they normally complained to the postie., or the next on the run. It was sorted out in house. Then came the revolution of super centres, putting all regional post offices into huge delivery centres. Could be nearly 100 posties in the one centre. The pressure was on, no overtime. Delivery became rush, rush, rush. The connection between postie and customer , for the most part, disappeared.

    Used to be, managers were promoted up the ladder, thru the ranks. Then came the contracted managers, never worked as a postie, or on the counter, didn't know the culture, 2 year contracts [ I think] with a brief -eg, stop overtime, etc. In the smaller centres, sickies were few and far between, unless genuinely sick. In the bigger centres, you can have up to 20 off a day. Small things started to happen, in the old days you could walk into your local post office and talk to the manager about a problem. after super centres, sorting problems was a full time job. So a position was created just for complaints. Can you believe it, people couldn't walk into the office to complain, they couldn't ring up the office to complain, there was a dedicated complaints number, and , like call centres, it was somewhere in Australia. We think. This is all about 10 years ago, things may have changed. I hope. The formula was, smaller the office, the more dedicated the staff, bigger the super centre, forget it.

    When I started, back in 1985, in Fortitude Valley, we walked to deliver. Had cups of tea with customers, and generally had a great relationship with them. At the end, around 2009, in the Sandgate delivery centre, it was just a job, customers were not happy, couldn't wait to retire. Now, before the postie can deliver a letter at Sandgate, they have to ride their bikes from Virginia. And back, in the afternoon. My old mates tell me there has never been so much overtime , ever. And they call it progress. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed my time in the job, for the most part, but that was only because of the mates I worked with, in the end. Not because of the job, unlike when I started. And that is sad, but I guess that's modern Australia. Phewww! Rant over.
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    Hi,
    Got a parcel post delivered last Sunday!

    I'm impressed.

    Cheers

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    In the 1960's the PMG had a programme called Operation Post Haste. They promised delivery of letters between major cities in two working days and they did achieve this. Fast forward to 2018. I sent letters at Norman Park P.O. to Upper Mt. Gravatt and Ferny Hills which took four and six days respectively. Another posted at Cannon Hill P.O. to Manly West only two suburbs away which took from Thursday to Tuesday. Now I could have walked and hand delivered these in far less time.

    For fifteen years I posted mail orders via Australia Post when I was running Brian's Retirement Sale and they only managed to "lose" one. I considered many took an inordinately long time to arrive. My WA clients regularly complained about the time taken to receive parcels from the Eastern states claiming parcels arrived from the UK and USA quicker. Last summer I sent a gift to Warrnambool. Lacking faith in AP i sent it nine days before the birthday. Surprisingly, it arrived in three. As Bob10 says, the rot set in when the official P.O.s with their mail sorting rooms were downsized and closed. "Mail Centres" were opened and the official P.O.s became franchises with eff-all to do with deliveries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbjorn View Post
    ... My WA clients regularly complained about the time taken to receive parcels from the Eastern states claiming parcels arrived from the UK and USA quicker.
    That is true in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    I worked as a postman for 25 years, after 21 years military service. Best job I ever had [ really only had 2, I guess] Back in the day, we all cared. If you didn't go the extra yard, your fellow posties jumped on you. In those days, at the beginning, the offices were relatively small, average about 10 to 20 postmen, everyone knew their customers, if a customer had a complaint they normally complained to the postie., or the next on the run. It was sorted out in house. Then came the revolution of super centres, putting all regional post offices into huge delivery centres. Could be nearly 100 posties in the one centre. The pressure was on, no overtime. Delivery became rush, rush, rush. The connection between postie and customer , for the most part, disappeared.

    Used to be, managers were promoted up the ladder, thru the ranks. Then came the contracted managers, never worked as a postie, or on the counter, didn't know the culture, 2 year contracts [ I think] with a brief -eg, stop overtime, etc. In the smaller centres, sickies were few and far between, unless genuinely sick. In the bigger centres, you can have up to 20 off a day. Small things started to happen, in the old days you could walk into your local post office and talk to the manager about a problem. after super centres, sorting problems was a full time job. So a position was created just for complaints. Can you believe it, people couldn't walk into the office to complain, they couldn't ring up the office to complain, there was a dedicated complaints number, and , like call centres, it was somewhere in Australia. We think. This is all about 10 years ago, things may have changed. I hope. The formula was, smaller the office, the more dedicated the staff, bigger the super centre, forget it.

    When I started, back in 1985, in Fortitude Valley, we walked to deliver. Had cups of tea with customers, and generally had a great relationship with them. At the end, around 2009, in the Sandgate delivery centre, it was just a job, customers were not happy, couldn't wait to retire. Now, before the postie can deliver a letter at Sandgate, they have to ride their bikes from Virginia. And back, in the afternoon. My old mates tell me there has never been so much overtime , ever. And they call it progress. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed my time in the job, for the most part, but that was only because of the mates I worked with, in the end. Not because of the job, unlike when I started. And that is sad, but I guess that's modern Australia. Phewww! Rant over.
    My postie ( Chris) is a very helpful chap. Moved while renovating- he brought all my mail to me. The next door people moved and he brings me their mail after the redirection order expired. I see them from time to time still. Bottle of JD for him each Xmas


    The Parcel service is another bright spot

    On Oz post for Mail- what a mess- My postal costs have gone up well over 100% to over $1000 per month yet delivery times have gone out to 3 days+ often for scripts and medical referrals we post out

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