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Thread: SHOULDN'T WE BE SERIOUSLY STOPPING OUR POPULATION GROWTH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    There was an American chap who explained that really well using gum balls.
    It's on youtube.
    Yep, basically he points out that we currently have 4 generations alive at once as we're living much longer. Each generation is multiplying and branching out, so it's a double wham effect.

    If 2 adults have 2 kids who produce 2 kids each, you've got 8 people alive within 3 generations, but the grandparents are still kicking on too.

    Exponential growth, which make it easy to make a fairly accurate mathematical prediction.

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    I like to think I have done a little to be part of a less populous human species. I have no kids , only one sister , with two , and the greatest number of siblings on either parents side was three. Of these half decided not to have kids either. Maybe the family line and name will die out , not worrying.

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    We are the same . No kids.
    The European families are like that but the others with multiple wifes are popping out kids all over the place.
    Our lot will die off and the other lot multiplies and inherits the earth.

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    Anyone who lives a life where they can choose whatever they want to eat, has a responsibility to make many cultural, political and lifestyle changes beyond their diet to better care for the planet and half it’s population who are not so fortunate. ...admittedly, something that’s much easier to say than to do. Any real world suggestions most appreciated.

    Our water bill last quarter was $26. Our gas bill a little more. Firewood over winter $350. We live in a small house. We grow veggies. We work within 10 mins of home. We work with many people outside the mainstream and from diverse cultures. We do a lot of voluntary work. We tread lightly, care for the environment, make compost, recycle, share what we have with others.

    We have friends who are vegetatarian but it’s not for us. We eat meat ( lots of kangaroo, but also everything else as long as it’s free range / organic) and veggies, we have three cars (that’s my fault) but I can’t drive more than one at a time LOL, we drink coffee, enjoy wine.

    We are very fortunate and we live simply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russrobe View Post
    Unfortunately education would do pretty much nothing for the birth rate in these countries because the fact is most of them are getting pregnant during non consensual sex.
    No, the studies show a sharp decline in the birth rate in countries where girls are educated. See the link I posted above. It really works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    No, the studies show a sharp decline in the birth rate in countries where girls are educated. See the link I posted above. It really works.
    You can't lie about those stats, but consider what the same people in the same places are teaching the boys too. That same website outlines how focused they are on teaching boys morals to avoid the rapes happening.
    What about the boys? Educating boys for gender justice

    This is the culture that exists:
    "Boys also held a morepositive view about forced sex than girls since they associated itmore often with signs of love, as an appropriate way to satisfysexual urges, and as acceptable if the girl was financially dependent on the boy.The perception that peers and friends consideredforced sex to be an effective way to punish a female partner wasalso more common among boys. On the other hand, boys wereless knowledgeable about the health and legal consequences offorced sex, but no significant differences were found for othersociocognitive items,such as self-efficacy and behavioral intention items.Consequently,health education programs are neededto inform both boys and girls about the risks of forced sex, toconvince boys and their friends about its inappropriateness andgirls to empower themselves to avoid forced sex."

    De Vries, H., Eggers, S. M., Jinabhai, C., Meyer-weitz, A., Sathiparsad, R., & Taylor, M. (2014). Adolescents' beliefs about forced sex in KwaZulu-natal, south africa.
    Archives of Sexual Behavior, 43(6), 1087-95. doi:Shibboleth Authentication Request

    So you're right education works, but it's mostly about educating morals and the equality of women (who definitely deserve an education too!).

    Continues with these figures, showing 28% of men have raped=O . So clearly this issue needs some major role model mix ups and changes to their view of what society should be like.

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    Gender violence among South African adolescents has beendocumented extensively. Studies consistently show high rates ofboys and girls reporting being forced into sex (Jewkes & Morrell,2010; Mathews, 2008; Reddy et al., 2010; Sathiparsad, 2008).Jewkes and Abrahams (2002) reported in their review an incidenceof 2,070 incidents per 100,000 women per year, withcoerced forms of sex being a common problem in schools,workplaces,and among peers. Jewkesetal.(2006a) found that,amongmen aged 15–26 years, 16.3 % had raped a non-partner or participatedin a form of gang rape and 8.4 % had been sexuallyviolent towards an intimate partner. Jewkes and Morrell (2010)found that 42 % of men disclosed perpetration of intimate partnerviolence and 28 % disclosed rape of a woman or girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Rainfall or sea level rise? The first is unlikely to beat evaporation and there's a sill of around 100 metres altitude north of Yorkey's Crossing that has to be breached for the latter.
    What about down thru the Gulf via the channel country? Pretty well flat most of the way.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Maps of Australia's ancient inland sea.


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    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    In china it is illegal for a hospital to reveal the sex of a foetus.......

    They are also now encouraging more babies, as they are worried that the population will reduce too quickly.

    Hmm.

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    Interesting solution Japan seems to be trying to come up with to solve their low population problems.

    Early days but should be pretty impressive in 10 years time.

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