SHOULDN'T WE BE SERIOUSLY STOPPING OUR POPULATION GROWTH?

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Originally Posted by sashadidi

If you read some of the original Russian communist documents (Lenin. Troksty etc) they actually anticipated they might to have to "reduce" the actual population by up to 15% aor more to eliminate those who might "oppose" them.... (peasants etc)

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might?
i think stalin did.
and mao

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Originally Posted by Eevo

might?
i think stalin did.
and mao

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Don't forget Pol Pot.

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Originally Posted by donh54

Don't forget Pol Pot.

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was he communist?
my pol pot history is very lacking

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Originally Posted by Eevo

was he communist?
my pol pot history is very lacking

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From Wikipedia. ...
Pol Pot was a Cambodian communist revolutionary and politician who served as the General Secretary of the Communist Party of Kampuchea from 1963 to 1981. Ideologically a Marxist–Leninist and Khmer nationalist, he led the Khmer Rouge group from 1963 until 1997.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

might?
i think stalin did.
and mao

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I was being diplomatic!!! but the point is people are/were nothing to them and the effects of that zealotry are still resonating 100 years later in Russia...

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Originally Posted by sashadidi

I was being diplomatic!!! but the point is people are/were nothing to them and the effects of that zealotry are still resonating 100 years later in Russia...

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i think your putin your foot in it.

As in communism can produce less waste.

Capitalism will always produce tons of junk. Capitalism encourage people's greed, where everyone should be as selfish and savage as possible so that the eventual welfare of entire society is maxed, none of whom intends to bring about such outcomes.* Haha
I guess Adam Smith know nothing about climate change

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Originally Posted by martnH

As in communism can produce less waste.

Capitalism will always produce tons of junk. Capitalism encourage people's greed, where everyone should be as selfish and savage as possible so that the eventual welfare of entire society is maxed, none of whom intends to bring about such outcomes.* Haha
I guess Adam Smith know nothing about climate change

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no, you can have capitalism without the greed. its a culture thing.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

no, you can have capitalism without the greed. its a culture thing.

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Trouble was when people started applying the Keynesian theory as if it was a fact - not a theory! :bat:

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Originally Posted by martnH

As in communism can produce less waste...

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But do they in reality? Couple of stories from some time I spent in E. Germany before the wall came down.

You couldn't buy a simple beer on tap at a bar during my time there. It had to be always mixed with Russian 'champagne' because somebody overestimated demand for champagne in their planning and the state over produced according to plan. I guess it wasn't wasted in one respect because you're forced to drink it if you want a 'beer'. In another respect it was waste because it represents gross over production. Both of these are aspects of the same thing - centrally planned communism.

Was browsing through what passed as a shopping mall. Was thinking of picking up some gloves as it was a bit chilly. There was big bin of mixed sizes and styles of gloves in the clothing dept, pick and choose, help yourself. Only problem was they were all left handed - another communism production stuff up.