Toyota Warranty - Brake use - Land Rover Warranty

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Originally Posted by weeds

Sooo what would the ratio of 70 series to defender on the road??

10:1 probably way more

I think that paints a picture of land rovers place in the market.

We are on a Land Rover forum off course the landy is the duct guts

In a cruiser forum cruisers are the duck guts.

When we spend a lot of money on our daily drives we tend to be a little bit biased toward our purchase.

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No bias here at all actually. I was driving Tojos for 10 years before getting my first Defender. I actually went looking for an 80 series, test drove one, then chanced apon my Defender. Took it for a drive and was immediately impressed compared to the 80 series I’d driven earlier that day and all the troopies I’d driven for work. I bought it on the spot. ...don’t get me started on why it’s better! (It was also $12k less expensive! for same year/same kms).

Like many things in life, most people follow like sheep. They take the usual road over the unusual road, value advertising and perceived ‘reliability’ over character and capability. When I drove my first Defender I was impressed and surprised how much better it was and I couldn’t understand the ridiculous bias toward Toyota. ...I went my own way.

Yes, I've had this conversation with my BIL, whose family has two 80s. They need huge on-going maintenance, partly because of their age of course. He makes jokes about me fitting accessories to mine, but overlooks how many important things have needed fixing on the 80s.

As a perhaps relevant comment here - I got a pink slip for my County this morning. I was telling the mechanic what had happened to it since he last saw it a year ago - one of the things was a new indicator/flasher/horn switch. He said "can you actually get parts for it? Its thirty two years old!"

As I pointed out to him, there are no issues with most parts for it. I wonder what the situation is with similar aged Toyotas?

....Very good point JD, especially in the context of the misleading comment: 'how many Toyota's are on the road compared to Land Rovers'. ...It should be, 'how many Land Rovers are STILL on the road, compared to Toyota's that have rusted away'. ...for example, I reckon I see just as many 20 year old Defenders as 80 series on the road - which is significant, considering how many more 80 series there would have been from new and how few are still running around.

Isn't there a claim that about two-thirds of all LRs ever built are still pootling about?

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Isn't there a claim that about two-thirds of all LRs ever built are still pootling about?

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According to Land Rover owners....

A good 80 series is certainly worth its dollars,compared with an equivalent Disco,there is no comparison.

As does the 100 series.

But then there are Defenders,but they are in a different class.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Isn't there a claim that about two-thirds of all LRs ever built are still pootling about?

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I think it goes something like ‘Two thirds of all Land Rovers are still on the road - the other third made it home.’

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Originally Posted by scarry

A good 80 series is certainly worth its dollars,compared with an equivalent Disco,there is no comparison.

As does the 100 series.

But then there are Defenders,but they are in a different class.

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....ooohhh...them there is fighting words. I have spent a fair bit of time in both. I am comfortable working on my d2 and slightly modded I would never give it up for an 80 just far better in terms of ride comfort and offroad comfort. The d2 petrol is just so well sorted once an inline cool thermostat is used too. Cheers

an update:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD6TWhDiX-U