MUNGO MAN...SHOULD WE GIVING THIS MORE PRIORITY?

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Originally Posted by bob10

That is a fair question. Because, the native people, in the main, have been forced off their ancestral land, onto what may be called in the American way reservations . They no longer have the capability to hunt in the traditional way. They no longer have the country to educate their children in the traditional ways. they have over many years degenerated into welfare dependant communities. They have been forced off their land into this situation because the white man needed their land. So they took it. In the most extreme cases, the white man killed them all. Men, Women, Children. That is the white man's legacy. Your legacy.

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You have obviously never been to the Kimberlie's or the NT, They have a plethora of land/country available to them the same as in the central desert country.
I doubt very much that many of them would want to go back to living off the land as they did prior to being settled anyway.

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Originally Posted by bob10

Adapt to what?

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modern society.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

You have obviously never been to the Kimberlie's or the NT, They have a plethora of land/country available to them the same as in the central desert country.
I doubt very much that many of them would want to go back to living off the land as they did prior to being settled anyway.

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I lived in the NT . Been to the Kimberlys, and the Pilbara. And Arnhem Land. I didn't just be a tourist. You obviously are not aware the most successful
aboriginal endeavours have been buying back large cattle stations all over the top end and running them giving the young men a future. You also have no idea of the communities in places such as Docker river, in which a mate of mine was manager, which have " wild Blacks " living as they did back in the day. You really should educate yourself before making these " tourist " statements.

I have lived and worked in the Pilbara and the NT, I have also had first hand experience of remote communities working with an electrical contractor out of Darwin So stick your "Tourist" label up your Bum Mate.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

I have lived and worked in the Pilbara and the NT, I have also had first hand experience of remote communities working with an electrical contractor out of Darwin So stick your "Tourist" label up your Bum Mate.

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And that is just what I expected from you. Edit and hoped would not happen .

Yawn....might come back to this thread in a couple of hundred years, hang on both sides will probably not have resolved differences and moved on

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Originally Posted by weeds

Yawn....might come back to this thread in a couple of hundred years, hang on both sides will probably not have resolved differences and moved on

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I firmly believe your grand children will have a different attitude.

Bob, some people are interested in other people and diverse world views, while others are frightened of diversity and only interested in themselves / perpetuating their own prejudices; some even think that everyone should ‘adapt’ to their world view, and even worse they get angry when others don’t buy it and just want to be themselves.

I’m with you brother, consideration of others is not only important, it’s what makes the world an interesting place to live. If everyone lived the same way and saw the world the same way, it would be a very boring world.

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Originally Posted by Zeros

Apparently mitochondrial DNA knowledge is not as conclusive as first thought...
Turns Out Mitochondria Don't Work Like We Thought They Did
Just one example of inconclusive Western science. How many other variables might be discovered?

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There is no such thing as 'western' science. There is only science which simply asks for reproducible evidence of whatever anybody claims. Anyway, from the article you cite:

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But this paper shows that this sort of thing does happen, and it might be possible that it could happen to a lot of people

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And what the authors of the referenced paper actually say:

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Our results suggest that, although the central dogma of maternal inheritance of mtDNA remains valid, there are some exceptional cases where paternal mtDNA could be passed to the offspring.

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So yes, it's possible but it is the exception and the actual authors are a long way short of saying it could happen in "a lot of people". After all, they only found 17 instances of it.

Some actual articles on the topic relating to Mungo Man and his ancient relatives. Of course this is all 'western' science so please don't tell me it backs up or refutes whatever you have been saying about anything.

Mitochondrial DNA sequences in ancient Australians: Implications for modern human origins.

Ancient mtDNA sequences from the First Australians revisited

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Originally Posted by Ferret

There is no such thing as 'western' science. There is only science which simply asks for reproducible evidence of whatever anybody claims. Anyway, from the article you cite:

And what the authors of the referenced paper actually say:

So yes, it's possible but it is the exception and the actual authors are a long way short of saying it could happen in "a lot of people". After all, they only found 17 instances of it.

Some actual articles on the topic relating to Mungo Man and his ancient relatives. Of course this is all 'western' science so please don't tell me it backs up or refutes whatever you have been saying about anything.

Mitochondrial DNA sequences in ancient Australians: Implications for modern human origins.

Ancient mtDNA sequences from the First Australians revisited

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Um there is actually: Western science and traditional knowledge: Despite their variations, different forms of knowledge can learn from each other

Without acknowledging and factoring in the full diversity of ‘science’ including indigenous science, Western science has blinkers on IMO - its all supposition amidst variables based on experiments. It’s a way of looking at the world which is no more or less valid than any other. It is completely fallible, has its advantages and disadvantages.