MUNGO MAN...SHOULD WE GIVING THIS MORE PRIORITY?

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Originally Posted by Zeros

Some of the privileged here are bad enough.

...comparatively 'Australian' culture (as distinct from Aboriginal cultures) is probably the least advanced (being the youngest) on the planet...we have a lot to learn from the oldest cultures on the planet.

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What have we to gain from a culture that kept people in the stone age for 40,000 years?

The ‘stone age’ is an imperial construct designed to historicise and capitalise world views.

With mining as one of the most significant industries in the world, our reliance on fossil fuels, iron ore, etc, we continue in ‘the stone age’.

But arguably now...within a few short centuries, we are destroying the planet with our stone-age capitalisation, our ‘progress’. Whilst Aboriginal people have lived much more in harmony with the ecosystem for 40, 50, 60,000+ years.

Perpetual growth? Progress? Racing to where? ...we all live here, on this planet, together...and we’re ****ing it up. For what? A faster car? A taller building? A bigger boat?

I suggest we have a LOT to learn about standing still, re-valuing who and where we are, the planets environment that makes life possible, the richness of our cultural diversity.

We have a lot to learn from those who are the oldest thriving cultures on the planet. They know this country better than anyone.

The earth is a stone. Everything we do or make is of the earth. We are all ‘stone-age people’. Where else are we going to go?

One of our supposedly more enlightened human beings Elon Musk suggests Mars

We could all go there and leave the earth to re-establish itself it again with it's oldest inhabitants. They could do it. We can't.

I wonder if we could **** Mars as quickly as we ****ed the earth.

Thats why Mungo Man is significant as a founder of the people who could untangle the mess we've made of this beautiful planet.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

What have we to gain from a culture that kept people in the stone age for 40,000 years?

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Good question - put another way do you think that our current western civilisation will last 40,000 years. I doubt it. One of the most amazing things is that the aboriginal culture has lasted so long and is still in existence - the longest exisiting culture ever. We should learn from their example how to manage and live within our environment rather than destroying it. In the last 200 years since Cook we have managed to destroy our ecology, waterways, forests. Our farmlands are degraded, our fish stocks diminishing, the water we need to survive is becoming less available and of poorer quality. We haven’t been able to find that balance for sustainable existence. In fact you would have to say that modern culture hasn’t learnt from the past at all.

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Originally Posted by bob10

I wish I had said that. So true. Here's something. Australian culture is deeper than the media , who control our shallow culture, reports on. However, we , for the most part, pin our flag on sports. It may be no coincidence that our best performed and respected sports people are women. It may be time for a female PM. Worth a try. And I have to say, any people who base their culture on a Barry Mackenzie movie, have either a finely developed sense of humour, or are destined to be the butt of jokes throughout Asia.

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At least the female cricketers are winning.

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Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

One of our supposedly more enlightened human beings Elon Musk suggests Mars

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quite happy for Elon to go to mars.

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Originally Posted by bln

Good question - put another way do you think that our current western civilisation will last 65,000 years. I doubt it. One of the most amazing things is that the aboriginal culture has lasted so long and is still in existence - the longest exisiting culture ever. We should learn from their example how to manage and live within our environment rather than destroying it. In the last 200 years since Cook we have managed to destroy our ecology, waterways, forests. Our farmlands are degraded, our fish stocks diminishing, the water we need to survive is becoming less available and of poorer quality. We haven’t been able to find that balance for sustainable existence. In fact you would have to say that modern culture hasn’t learnt from the past at all.

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Small correction bln

I have the utmost respect for our indigenous Australians, and they have interacted with many of the surrounding cultures of the Australian continent, including the Dutch who landed here over 400yrs ago, and who traded with the indigenous people of the northern parts of Australia for over 100yrs before Cook was even born.

If the indigenous people agree with what they want to do about Mungo Man, then I don't see why not, the more we know about the history of this country the better.

I doubt if current Australian society will survive 65,000 years. We'll have trashed the place long before then. Only Wall-E will still be here, repairing the damage.

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Originally Posted by laney

So do I now who mungo man is no I don't do I care who he is no I don't I think we are all Australians regardless of where we came from or our ancestors came from do we need another shrine,museums or anything else to show all how different we are I personally would prefer to just call us Australian and not put different racers and caltures in social boxes just my thoughts.

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Absolutely SPOT ON my friend.
I've got no time for "Separatists, them & us, White Fellas, Our mobs, First Nation, Invasion Day,", or ANY derogatory comments about first Euro settlers,....etc etc etc, I'm just sick of it.
As far as I'm concerned, this great country does not "belong" to anyone tribe, people, Euro settlers etc etc, ra ra and all the rest of the stuff that goes on.
This is "öur" country, and until BOTH sides come to terms with that, nothing will be resolved,....IMHO of course.
Pickles.

Problem with that is our mob invaded, there was a 150 year war, our mob did our best to wipe the landowners out, but they survived, they never surrendered and no treaty was ever signed, so it's still invaders Vs landowners. So we're not all Australians. History doesn't lie.
We will never become one mob until this is sorted. Other countries, including NZ, have done it, and so should we.